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Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by cheq »

dutchCourage wrote: post #460
magic_hamster wrote: post #371

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I fully agree. My use case sees a fairly intensive use of MacOS, Linux and Windows, and out of all these, MacOS is the worst experience for me, and that's saying a lot when I prefer to use Windows 11 over MacOS. Macs have very strong advantages but the software, the OS is absolutely infuriating. There's so many annoyances over regular use. You can remedy some of them with third party software (which should have been…

This depends heavily on your use case. I'd get rid of Windows entirely if I could. For most people I'd say MacOS is the most sane and plug and play experience. The email/browser/note taking experience is better than on Windows, and easier than on Linux. This gets less and less true when you start pluging peripherals and wanting to change the default behavior or use certain apps. But then they're not the target of the…

that example is just worthless... most people are used to notepad and windows (by a huge margin) than ANY mac thing you can say. So, no, sorry, you are wrong, the sanest plug and play experience, still, is windows, who is pirated all across the globe and put on anything.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by throw0101d »

Reason077 wrote: post #278
cannolicannon wrote: post #254

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The big players are just awful at marketing; too many SKUs and models - it takes a paragraph to figure out how 2 Dell laptops from the same release year differ. Just hired a new colleague who prefers Windows. Dell seemed like a reasonable option for a good laptop. Here is Dell's current lineup: - Dell Laptop (with 14, 15, 16 inch variants) - Dell Plus (with 14, 15, and 16 inch variants) - Dell XPS (with 13, 14, and 1…

Apple isn’t this bad, of course, but they’re slowly heading in that direction. The number of overlapping iPad models and variants, for example, is getting kind of crazy these days. Now there’s the MacBook Neo and a rumoured new MacBook Ultra in the pipeline. The easy days of “pick standard or pro, select a display size, select RAM & storage” are starting to fade.

> The number of overlapping iPad models and variants, for example, is getting kind of crazy these days.

Sort of, maybe (not)?

First off there is the "mini", which is basically if you want a small screen / most portability.

After that, the two questions you need to ask are "How much horsepower and storage do you need/want?" (plain vs Air/Pro), and then "How fancy of a screen do you want/need?" (Air vs Pro):

* https://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/

* https://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/?modelList=ipad-pro-11-m5...

The "mini" is a bit of a 'wild card', but otherwise it's very close to the usual good/better/best trope (plain-iPad/Air/Pro).

Laptops also now fall into the trope of good/better/best with Neo/Air/Pro.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by throw0101d »

chongli wrote: post #715
3eb7988a1663 wrote: post #642

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Minus an intentionally bad hardware design, I struggle to imagine how a software version of the idea could ever be more secure than a power line hard-wired to an LED.

You build it directly into the GPU firmware and don't give the operating system any access to it.

> You build it directly into the GPU firmware and don't give the operating system any access to it.

State-level actors have been know to fiddle with firmware, specifically in the past for hard drives:

* https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S13534...

* https://www.wired.com/2015/02/nsa-firmware-hacking/

I could see how cameras and microphones could be enticing targets.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by cdelsolar »

raincole wrote: post #809
Aurornis wrote: post #290

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> You can spend $400 on a laptop and have a perfectly fine experience. Or you could spend $200 more (or $100 more with edu pricing) and get a MacBook Neo which has significantly higher build quality, a much better screen, a great trackpad, and amazing performance. Seeing how college students throw laptops in backpacks, that extra $100 (edu pricing) could very easily save them money in the long run. > There are damn g…

TIL Apple fans actually believe MacBook has 'higher build quality.'

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Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by kstrauser »

rswail wrote: post #801
kstrauser wrote: post #377

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The last time certain family members asked me for a computer recommendation, I gave them a detailed breakdown of which MacBook they could get to meet their lightweight needs for the next decade. They thanked me, agreed, went to Best Buy, and came back with the laptop that the salesperson convinced them was better "because he knows computers". It was an utter piece of crap and they've had nothing but problems with it.…

I told my (now 88) father that if he bought another desktop PC he was on his own. Tough love works. He loves his 24" iMac, it just works and I can fix things remotely if necessary (it hasn't been).

This is the way.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by OJFord »

throw0101d wrote: post #912
Reason077 wrote: post #278

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Apple isn’t this bad, of course, but they’re slowly heading in that direction. The number of overlapping iPad models and variants, for example, is getting kind of crazy these days. Now there’s the MacBook Neo and a rumoured new MacBook Ultra in the pipeline. The easy days of “pick standard or pro, select a display size, select RAM & storage” are starting to fade.

> The number of overlapping iPad models and variants, for example, is getting kind of crazy these days. Sort of, maybe (not)? First off there is the "mini", which is basically if you want a small screen / most portability. After that, the two questions you need to ask are "How much horsepower and storage do you need/want?" (plain vs Air/Pro), and then "How fancy of a screen do you want/need?" (Air vs Pro): * https://…

> Laptops also now fall into the trope of good/better/best with Neo/Air/Pro.

...until the bestest Ultra launches, as GP pointed out?

(Also Air used to be 'the light one', not the standard/middling one on same spectrum.)

We could say a similar thing with the Dell names above, the point is that it's confusing to work out which you need/want when there's so many, not that they don't fall in some sort of order across a line from mediocre to best.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by hajile »

mikestew wrote: post #249
bigyabai wrote: post #226

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You can buy a Magic Trackpad and pair it with your Thinkpad no problem. It's much more comfortable to use it side-by-side with your keyboard, most of the time I'm reaching for the Trackpoint if my hands are on home row.

You can buy a Magic Trackpad and pair it with your Thinkpad no problem. Yeah, that works great on the bus. It's one more thing to tote around to meetings, but hey, at least I didn't have to buy a MacBook! Or I could just buy a Mac and not have to resort to hacks to get a decent trackpad.

It seems like PC makers just don't want to invest in quality trackpads.

It's criminal that my now almost decade-old Pixelbook still has a better trackpad than 99% of PCs (including ones that cost way more money).

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by Weryj »

If they made a thin client with these processors, in a mac-mini (mac-tiny?) format. I would be buying a couple on every paycheck.

But that's very wishful thinking.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by abruzzi »

drcongo wrote: post #160
FeloniousHam wrote: post #128

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I use it everyday, I love it. Native unix, great apps and ecosystem.

It's amazing how often people who post on here about hating macOS have only just got a Mac for the first time and simply can't be bothered to learn, or hate that the keyboard shortcuts are different, or desperately want their OS level adverts back or something. It's lazy.

I think the real point is a) change is difficult, and b) we all have different needs.

If you asked me to use a Windows machine I would be frustrated from day one and would want my Mac back, but everyone else where I work (except one) uses Windoes every day, and I don't know how they do it.

As far as needs, I haven't been a serious dev for a long time (ask my employees who won't let me near any code), so containerization is a non issue I could care less about for myself, but (for personal use) there are apps on Mac that work for me that don't run on Windows, and definitely don't run on Linux.

There are probably reasonably "objective" measures that can be used to rank OS's agains each other, like security or bugs, but even some measures that sound objective may be based on data but their value is subjective. The OS wars are old, and maybe I'm old too, but they're getting tired (unless we want to discuss how the AmigaOS was better than any other OS at the time but with one fatal flaw.)

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