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Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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Serious question for early adopters of Claws: what are you using them for? What things do you find them actually useful? Can you give examples of tasks where you actually save time and/or effort using them?

I have longed tried to find solid answers to this, these best I can find is basically:

1. Yet another coding assistant (obviously)

2. Documenting stuff (that no one will read anyway)

3. Making reports

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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This entire concept will at some point be just part of the OS. Allowing it to control everything on your PC, but integrated with the rest of your system. With permission controls.

I'd be surprised if the OS vendors are not already playing with the idea and have working prototypes.

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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It was surprisingly difficult for me to understand the use case as well. Here is my best attempt at an elevator pitch: At present your memories are proprietary data in whichever LLM you use. ChatGPT keeps all your conversations and output and data forever. What if you don't like GPT 5.2? What if you want to use other models as well? Or use the best model for the job? OpenClaw gives you that ability. Your memories and…

> We already have examples of these agents creating an AI religion, an AI social network (which debated how to keep humans out using a human captcha), attempting to legally separate from their creators Didn’t these turn out to be fake and/or humans cosplaying as bots?

It doesn’t even matter anymore. The hype is an unstoppable force

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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I saw simonw getting attacked for sharing his bloglink about it, only it was not even simonw who shared the link here.

I can understand the sentiment against Simon it's just to much of the same content over and over again but I handled it with just blacklisting him no need for personal attacks.

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Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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I don't understand why folks are buying Mac Minis specifically for this? Why not repurpose an old existing computer? Run Linux? What am I missing?

Where do you get the AI acceleration? Apple Silicon chips are decent AI perf for the price afaiu

There's no need for (local) AI acceleration if you are leveraging a remote LLM (Claude, ChatGPT, etc). The vast, vast majority of users are most likely just making API calls to a remote service. No need for specialized or beefy hardware.

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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I still don't understand what openclaw is or does and i've read the docs multiple times over. "Any OS gateway for AI agents across WhatsApp, Telegram, Discord, iMessage, and more. Send a message, get an agent response from your pocket. Plugins add Mattermost and more." "What is OpenClaw? OpenClaw is a self-hosted gateway that connects your favorite chat apps — WhatsApp, Telegram, Discord, iMessage, and more — to AI c…

Openclaw isn't new (and the actual project never made itself out to be new)

It's a nice packaging, of a whole bunch of preexisting things. Agentic AI inside a nice sandbox container, running the model on a cron schedule, and with an ecosystem of ready made skills

Nothing new, but it made the tech easy for people to download and start using immediately. That's why you see so many people treating it as new - it's their first time hearing about such a setup

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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If you stop trying to find something like truly ontologically novel about it, you might be able to understand what it actually is. Okay it's not impressive. It's not incredible. It's not groundbreaking new technology. It is what it is.

It is being discussed as though it were ontologically novel, karpathy is saying it's something new and he is an authority, so to me there is something here that i am not seeing. I promise i am not trying to be a naysayer or poke holes, I am literally just trying to find out what the hell it is. I would install it but i don't want to install something without knowing what it does, and what is written in the docs is cl…

You’re currently arguing dropbox wasn’t novel because you could do everything it could do by hand.

99% of the general AI utilizing public has no desire to build and maintain what you’re doing.

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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I hear about X being hateful but nobody wants to talk about how toxic BlueSky actually is. I had to stop going on there permanently. I dont think I have ever quit a social media platform as quickly and permanently as BlueSky.

This is also a strawman. Both platforms are irrelevant to this discussion.

Not to what I was responding to.

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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In my opinion people are fixating a little too much over the automation part, maybe because most people don't have a lot of experience with delegation... I mean, a VP worth his salt isn't generally having critical emails drafted and sent on his behalf without his review. It happens with unimportant emails, but with the stuff that really impacts the business far less often, unless he has found someone really, really g…

You might be right, but not for long. Once my agent is interacting directly with your agent (as opposed to doing drafts of your work on your behalf), expectations will shift to 24/7 operation.

This is uncharted territory and very interesting.. We humans live with a strong requirement of reputation management which shapes the way that we do things.

Once we have agents openly do things on our behalf but not in our voice, it will be interesting to see how of subpar performance or bad etiquette gets accepted just because agents don't have an individual personal reputation to maintain

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