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Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by ratelimitsteve »

Maken wrote: post #852
dmix wrote: post #585

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> The French approach of just rebooting and reinstalling the entire thing seems like a good idea at this point. Do you mean the French Revolution? If you actually read the history on that (even basic stuff beyond the "Reign of Terror") I don't think any person would want to experience that for their country. It had tons of indiscriminate violence and took a decade of chaos before they sorted out into a real governmen…

You never want the French Revolution... except when your country is ruled by an absolute monarch and you are essentially his slave forever. The American Revolution had the advantage of having the king an entire ocean away and no other neighbor kings panicking and declaring war on you immediately.

we actually had the help of the french king as well, in a sort of "enemy mine" scenario that has resulted in towns near me with french names pronounced in american accents. We've got North Vur-sales (Versailles) and Shar-luh-roy (Charleroi) and I can't help but think that Lafayette would've gone right back home if he know we were gonna do this to his language.

Prussians, too. A lot of Europe seemed to not really feel one way or another about the plucky little colony but had very strongly defined feelings about damaging Great Britain.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by daveguy »

coliveira wrote: post #268
daveguy wrote: post #222

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Well, to be fair, 7 million showed up in the streets on Saturday. Up from 5 million before and up from 3 million before that. The last election was decided by 2.3 million votes. Edit1: That's not to say don't worry about it. That's to say everyone can show their displeasure with peaceful protest and involvement/activism that will make it clear the people of the US disagree with this corruption. No matter how much any…

From the 7 millions that did show up, very close to zero of them will be deciding the next election due to the way the election system works in the US.

I think you underestimate how many showed up in and from red states. And how many don't get their news from Fox/NewsMax/Trump/Social. At least that's one good thing about all the AI polluting social media with obnoxious slop.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by ratelimitsteve »

Pxtl wrote: post #902
dmix wrote: post #585

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> The French approach of just rebooting and reinstalling the entire thing seems like a good idea at this point. Do you mean the French Revolution? If you actually read the history on that (even basic stuff beyond the "Reign of Terror") I don't think any person would want to experience that for their country. It had tons of indiscriminate violence and took a decade of chaos before they sorted out into a real governmen…

The term " the French Revolution" is kinda misleading because by the normal definition of "revolution" they had a few of those not just one.

it's misleading without context. luckily nothing humans ever do is without context and the french revolution has referred to the revolution of 1789 since...well, since 1789.

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Post by aaronbrethorst »

sojournerc wrote: post #869
aaronbrethorst wrote: post #753

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"boooooth siiiiiiides" screamed the reactionary centrist.

Biden pardoned his son for clear crimes, yes!

That’s a relief, I would’ve been worried about his mental capacity if he had pardoned Hunter for not committing a crime.

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Post by hypeatei »

gitaarik wrote: post #899
twixfel wrote: post #830

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I find comment such as yours rather pathetic, for reasons I can't quite put into words. It's like you want to make excuses for Trump but you're not really willing to actually commit to it. Political corruption was not invented by Trump. We know. But that's really not the point at all.

I don't understand this. Should only Trump be blamed? I think that's stupid. All presidents before him were just as corrupt as him, only Trump doesn't care how people think of him, so he's not very sublte, like the other presidents. In that way I think Trump is actually revealing the corruption.

> All presidents before him were just as corrupt as him

That is not even close to true. What other Presidents were "just as corrupt" and how?

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Post by mock-possum »

Yizahi wrote: post #904
actionfromafar wrote: post #563

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The way this is going, the President won’t need using any pardon powers, because the judges will all ask the President what the judgement should be in advance. And the prosecutors will ask who to prosecute. Finally only fair justice!

This is by the way literally word for word official statements of the ruzzian officials. The conviction rates in ruzzian courts are above 99% every year and the official explanation is that the prosecutors and police are so amazing and great, that only real criminals make it to the court. :)

What’s the deal with the ‘zz’?

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Post by hrimfaxi »

danans wrote: post #709
hrimfaxi wrote: post #671

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> If you have access to people in positions of government influence, it's a good time to accept bribes from foreigners, FCPA addresses bribery of foreign governments...

Fair point, but either way we're not enforcing that law anymore.

It's clear you're not that familiar with the law if you got a fundamental aspect about it incorrect, so why is this bad on its face? Ending enforcement of laws is not de facto bad.

In this case, FCPA hinders American companies from competing in foreign locales where greasing the local wheels is a requirement for getting things done. Like it or not, this is the world we live in but an argument could be made that dropping enforcement is pragmatic.

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Post by insane_dreamer »

gitaarik wrote: post #899
twixfel wrote: post #830

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find comment such as yours rather pathetic, for reasons I can't quite put into words. It's like you want to make excuses for Trump but you're not really willing to actually commit to it. Political corruption was not invented by Trump. We know. But that's really not the point at all.

I don't understand this. Should only Trump be blamed? I think that's stupid. All presidents before him were just as corrupt as him, only Trump doesn't care how people think of him, so he's not very sublte, like the other presidents. In that way I think Trump is actually revealing the corruption.

> All presidents before him were just as corrupt as him

Is that so? Please list the ways in which former presidents have violated the Emolument clause, profited directly from their office (i.e., issuing their own cryptocoin), and increased their family's net worth by billions while in office.

Either put up the facts, or stop with the "whataboutism" nonsense.

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Post by zeven7 »

torgoguys wrote: post #605
ajross wrote: post #584

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> these past few administrations I remain amazed at how, again and again, no matter how specific and unique an abuse by the Trump administration is, it is always, invariably, Really Joe Biden's Fault. Like, the frame has been adopted by the MAGA base, but also the cranky left. The media does it too. Here on HN bothsidesism is a shibboleth that denotes "I'm a Serious Commenter and not a Partisan Hack". But it leads to…

>But it leads to ridiculous whoppers like this, and ends up in practice excusing what amounts to the most corrupt regime in this country in over a century, if not ever. Amen. Preach it, brother! >No, this is just bad, on its own, absent any discussion about what someone else did. There was no equivalent pardon of a perpetrator of an impactful crime in a previous administration I can think of. I'm genuinely curious wh…

I would be very mad at Biden pardoning his family if the next president was going to be Bush. With all of Trump's calls for retribution, and actions in that direction since the election, it is hard to blame Biden for trying to shield his son from unjust exercises of the law, while Trump was publicly touting him as one of his biggest enemies.
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