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Amazing. My M3Max is going to look like a paper-weight very soon. And that's fine by me. When I get an M6 or M7Max to replace it it'll be amazing.

I’m trying to find any reason I can that my M1 Max needs replacement; it’s hard. How do you justify it?

Did a M1 Max (32 GiB, 1 TB -> 64 GiB, 4 TB - Z14X000HR) upgrade in early 2024 for ~$1800 USD with ~20 battery cycles and 99% battery health. Avoiding *os 28 because I refuse unusable, battery-wasting bling.

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Is this the first time Apple released just the base chip and not the Pro nor the Max version at the same time? Are they trying to milk the market in small increments? Especially before Christmas. The MBP 14 M5 release came a bit unexpected. Many analysts mentioned beginning of 2026. When will M5 Pro and Max be released? What are your thoughts on comparing M4 Pro against the base version of M5?

The original M1 was released in base form before Pro/Max/Ultra variants. I think that pattern may have repeated for M2, but I'm not sure.

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It's probably due to the Electron bug[1]. A lot of common apps haven't patched up yet. I also have an M2 Pro with 32GB of memory. When I A/B test with Electron apps running vs without, the lag disappears when all the unpatched Electron apps are closed out. 1. https://avarayr.github.io/shamelectron/ Here's a script I got from somewhere that shows unpatched Electron apps on your system: Edit: HN nerfed the script. Foun…

Should we not be shaming apple for their recent software releases? Every bit of the os is N times slower than on the previous macOS version. Safari has been unusable. Constant lags and crashes in the shipped browser alone. We are back in Windows Vista times

Windows Vista broke UX for apps that tried to request admin permissions too often but didn't break the applications thenselves, and for video drivers wasn't that largely due to Intel shipping crap?

My MacOS experience has been first party software is getting worse.

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It's surprising to me macs aren't a more popular target for games. They're extremely capable machines and they're console-like in that there isn't very much variation in hardware, as opposed to traditional PC gaming. I would think that it's easier to develop a game for a MacBook than a Windows machine where you never know what hardware setup the user will have.

- have to build using XCode on macOS - have to pay Apple to have your executable signed - poor Vulkan support The hardware has never been an issue, it's Apple's walled garden ecosystem.

Apple is not the only platform where you effectively pay to have it signed. At some point people need to let this go and accept that the wider industry has started to go this way.

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The M5 MacBook Pro still gets the Broadcom WiFi chip but the M5 iPad Pros get the N1 and C1X (Sweet). All in all, apple is doing some incredible things with hardware. Software teams at apple really need to get their act together. The M1 itself is so powerful that nobody really needs to upgrade that for most things most people do on their computers. Tahoe however makes my M1 Air feel sluggish doing the exact same task…

> Tahoe however makes my M1 Air feel sluggish doing the exact same tasks ive been last couple of years. I have a work provided M2 Pro with 32GB of RAM. After the Tahoe upgrade it feels like one of the sluggish PCs at the house. It is the only one that I can see the mouse teleporting sometimes when I move it fast. This is after disabling transparency in Accessibility settings mind you, it was even worse before.

With Tahoe my M2 Pro feels snappier than before.

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Nope, never been real, never will be real. Just conspiracy theories like all the others. PS The Earth isn’t flat. We did go to the Moon. Vaccines don’t cause autism.

Yes, it's real and it's plain funny that you discredit simple facts in a case as obvious and with as many data points as Apple. From the 2005 iPods settlement [0], to the 113 Mio USD Batterygate [1], to Flexgate [2] where Apple only escaped settlement due to plausible deniability. To quote from Batterygate: > Apple has agreed to pay millions of dollars to 34 states over its controversial previous practice of delibera…

These obviously are’t planned obsolescence though.

Flexgate is a manufacturing error, that they handled in a consumer hostile way

Batterygate, was an arguably misguided way to support outdated models - prioritising one goal (battery life) over another (speed)

The iPod thing I’ll admit I know nothing about.

It sounds like, for you, planned obsolescence is defined as any instance where a product isn’t manufactured perfectly or degardes over time, regardless of whether it was planned. For me, planned obsolescence should contain at least a hint of planning.

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> Tahoe however makes my M1 Air feel sluggish doing the exact same tasks ive been last couple of years. I have a work provided M2 Pro with 32GB of RAM. After the Tahoe upgrade it feels like one of the sluggish PCs at the house. It is the only one that I can see the mouse teleporting sometimes when I move it fast. This is after disabling transparency in Accessibility settings mind you, it was even worse before.

my tinfoil-hat theory is that on each OS iteration Apple adds a new feature that leverages the latest chips hardware acceleration features and for older chips they do software-only implementations. they ship-of-thesseus the crap out of their OS but replacing with parts that need these new hardware features that run slow on older chips due to software-only implementations. I got the first generation iPad Pro, which is…

Yep, this is pretty much how they operate. Apple has always done that to some extent. Sometimes they are even quite clear about it and use it as a marketing point to push upgrading.

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Let's not pretend these are machines for hardcore computing jobs which belong on servers in terms of work/cost. Apples laptops are still amazing because we can do crazy amounts of work quickly without running out of battery. The edit, recompile, test loop is fast for programmers equipped with these expensive machines. And you can carry them everywhere without much risk of failure.

> And you can carry them everywhere without much risk of failure.

Unless you close the lid on a small grain of sand or some similarly small, hard particle, at which point the screen goes black and costs nearly as much to replace as the 1 year old computer is worth. Ask me how I know. :’(

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It feels like apple is “ a square peg in a round hole” when it comes to AI - atleast for now. They are not the hardware provider like nvidia, they don’t do the software and services like OpenAI or even Microsoft/oracle. So they are struggling to find a foothold here. I am sure they are working on a lot of things but the only way to showcase them is through their phone which ironically enough feels like not the best p…

I am absolutely looking forward to robust, on-device AI. I would rather not send my data to a third party who, in all likelihood, will use it to build ad-driven, sensationalist, addictive experiences.

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First time seeing Apple using "AI" in their marketing material. It was "Machine Learning" and "Apple Intelligence" before...

Unfortunately, they have also succumbed to the AI hype machine. Apple, calling it by its actual name "machine learning" was about the only thing I still liked about Apple.

They are marketing to the public who mostly call this stuff AI and not machine learning.
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