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Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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Post by Magnusmaster »

arielcostas wrote: post #765

Meaning to use your device you need to have a contractual relationship with a foreign (unless you are in the US) third party that decides what you can or cannot do with it. Plus using GrapheneOS is less of an option every day, since banks and other "regulated" sectors use Google Play Protect and similar DRMs to prevent you from connecting from whatever device you want. Client-side "trust" means the provider owning th…

There will never be a third large OS unless Google Play Integrity is legislated out of existence. And it looks like governments like Google Play Integrity so that won't happen

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Post by Humorist2290 »

So "certified" Android devices are phasing out side loading, making Google Play the only way to install an app. This is the norm on iOS, right? And in many jurisdictions, from Russia to Denmark, there is an actively hostile, and rapid, legislative push to prevent or criminalize using E2E messaging apps like Signal.

How long is it until we see countries pushing to just delist Telegram, Signal, etc from the app stores?

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Post by quantumsequoia »

mbix77 wrote: post #855

One can only hope a company like Framework, Nothing, or Fairphone actually can produce and maintain some flagship devices running GrapheneOS or similar. The only reason I have been using Android is because of the freedom I have in my apps, customization, alternative app stores,... I hope the EU fights this with all their might. It also seems like a major geopolitical risk too.

Nothing aspires to be Apple. They're all about design. I can't see them getting invested in a nerdy philosophical cause like this

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

arielcostas wrote: post #765

Meaning to use your device you need to have a contractual relationship with a foreign (unless you are in the US) third party that decides what you can or cannot do with it. Plus using GrapheneOS is less of an option every day, since banks and other "regulated" sectors use Google Play Protect and similar DRMs to prevent you from connecting from whatever device you want. Client-side "trust" means the provider owning th…

Other than depositing checks, I've always thought that phone bank apps are overrated. Banking is too serious for a phone- I'd rather do it on a real computer. I could fairly easily give up banking apps entirely.

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Post by yndoendo »

This is why I started investing in alternative Linux based solution providers in the smartphone market years ago. It was not if but when Google would take this path.

The only way I want to engage with Google is when it cost them money. I will not give them a penny directly.

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Post by BobaFloutist »

arielcostas wrote: post #765

Meaning to use your device you need to have a contractual relationship with a foreign (unless you are in the US) third party that decides what you can or cannot do with it. Plus using GrapheneOS is less of an option every day, since banks and other "regulated" sectors use Google Play Protect and similar DRMs to prevent you from connecting from whatever device you want. Client-side "trust" means the provider owning th…

> banks and other "regulated" sectors use Google Play Protect and similar DRMs to prevent you from connecting from whatever device you want.

This totally sucks but is there anything preventing you from using your bank's website in-browser in your phone, other than the terrible UI, tiny text, and inability to select the correct checkbox?

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Post by seanw444 »

IlikeKitties wrote: post #214
seanw444 wrote: post #199

Makes sense why they had to get rid of the "don't be evil" motto. They've been on a roll. I've seen a lot of similar sentiment on this thread, but the reason I use Android is because it gives me more control than iOS by allowing full-on painless sideloading, and custom distributions like GrapheneOS. They're doing everything they can to turn themselves into a worse Apple. All of the downsides of Apple, but none of the…

> There's no reason a competitive Linux-based smartphone can't exist (no, I'm not counting Android in that). Yes there is. You all don't understand that they will use remote attestation to force everyone to use approved devices with signed apps on signed OSes only You won't be able to bank, call a cab, write a chat message, watch a youtube video or do anything relevant on a device anymore that isn't signed, approved…

That's the blackpilled take. The whitepill is that sticking up for yourself hasn't ever been easy, but it's always been an option.

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Post by john01dav »

arielcostas wrote: post #765

Meaning to use your device you need to have a contractual relationship with a foreign (unless you are in the US) third party that decides what you can or cannot do with it. Plus using GrapheneOS is less of an option every day, since banks and other "regulated" sectors use Google Play Protect and similar DRMs to prevent you from connecting from whatever device you want. Client-side "trust" means the provider owning th…

> or some "GNU/Linux" touch version that has a serious ecosystem

How could this realistically happen? Developers of popular apps adore the control and illegitimate de-facto ownership that client side "trust" gives them, so they'll refuse to make apps for that platform. They'll also use said client side "trust" to block them. Thus, it can't reach critical mass to force adoption by these developers.

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