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‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Re: ‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by dismalaf »

sudopluto wrote: post #634
dismalaf wrote: post #561

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> Hamas, not Gazans. Nice play with language. Hamas claimed non-Hamas groups and some civilians held hostages. Some hostages were found in captivity guarded by "civilians". Groups like PIJ held hostages. So what's a nice catch-all term for the above groups?

terrorists? extremist groups? combatants? there is a large jump from hamas -> the entire population, including innocent civilians.

If you say some people who committed crimes are say, Americans, it means those people are Americans. Doesn't mean all Americans.

So saying they're Gazans covers all the groups, it doesn't say all Gazans, just that the ones doing it are Gazans.

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Post by somenameforme »

atoav wrote: post #624
somenameforme wrote: post #517

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It's not principled in the least. Politicians knew what they were supporting from the onset, but society at large was supposed to act like they ostensibly usually do and just start putting Israeli flags in their social media profiles after the media spammed out 'they're just defending themselves' and ran appeals to emotion enough. That didn't work, so politicians are swapping their public positions. And this is impor…

So let's make the assumption that all politicians flip-flop in their opinions, depending on what the popular opinion is these days. Given that assumption: If our goal is to get politics to take a tougher stance on a foreign government does it really matter that much how they arrived there? I get it, I too would love my politicians to hold principled humanitarian values and I know it doesn't feel good and it is certai…

Reread what you're responding to. The point is that there will be only lipservice and exploitation of voters. No tougher stances will be taken, except in public rhetoric, which is meaningless.

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Post by anonymars »

pstuart wrote: post #30
crystal_revenge wrote: post #17

As someone who went to US high school in the 90s, a good 1/3 of our curriculum seemed to be "never again" studies of the holocaust and other genocides throughout history. Which makes it completely incomprehensible to me that suddenly "don't talk about genocide" has become the basically law. What's worse is I actually feel openly saying "I don't support this genocide and I'm critical of the state committing it" is a r…

The problem is simple: conflicts like this are made into binary good vs evil arguments where the other side is bad and your side is good. The reality is that both sides have legitimate concerns, and likewise, are doing very bad things. Intelligent and caring people get sucked up into this and can only echo their hate for the other side. The exciting world of tech is designed to amplify the opposition but not to find…

The film The Battle of Algiers shows this well.

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Post by nailer »

justacrow wrote: post #907
nailer wrote: post #879

Posting at the top to point out that if you saw the image of a starving child recently, you’re looking at images of a child with a genetic disorder and you should reconsider which media you consume. You can also find more images of Mohammed al-Mutawaq, an 18-month-old with cerebral palsy, with his healthier sibling - which was cropped by the media to exaggerate claims of starvation.

Here is a picture of Yazan, 2 (article from today): https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/un-agencies-warn-key-f... Here is a picture of a child and others begging for food at an aid center (also today): https://www.npr.org/2025/07/29/g-s1-79039/gaza-children-star... Here's Siwar Ashoura (14th May): https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjdznz727z8o Here's what Ahmed el-Sheikh Eid, seven, looks like (4th of May): https:/…

> Here's Osama, lying in a hospital (April 25th)

Osama al-Rakab has cystic fibrosis. Again you should consider unfollowing CBC.

https://x.com/DahliaKurtz/status/1949802614507368958

> Here is a picture of Yazan, 2 (article from today)

Who also has a medical condition, and whose mother and father are very clearly not starving https://x.com/ApostateProphet/status/1764033775862698302. You should consider unfollowing Unicef too.

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Post by anonymars »

anonfordays wrote: post #909
anonymars wrote: post #185

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Probably not going to find this one encouraging: > A Columbia genocide scholar says she may leave over university’s new definition of antisemitism > ... Hirsch, the daughter of two Holocaust survivors, is now thinking of leaving the classroom altogether. https://apnews.com/article/columbia-university-antisemitism-... -- Tangentially related, I never understood how the anti-BDS laws square with the first amendment ( h…

Leftists spent years trying to pass "hate speech" laws and now that right is trying to pass "hate speech" laws leftists are clutching their pearls. It came back to bite.

Agreed, I think at the far end "left" and "right" turn more into a circle than a line: "people shouldn't be allowed to think this way!"

But, the trouble is, there's no right answer, only trade-offs. Personally I do prefer dialogue over "canceling." But I also recognize that can also basically allow for an intellectual "denial of service," so to speak. AKA "flooding the zone"

That said, seems voters on both left and right oppose these laws more than support them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws#Public_opinions_...

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Post by cm2012 »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #773
beepbopboopp wrote: post #373

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This, but further more, there are 100s of comments about "the genocide" here, but almost none about what Israel should do. They have a neighbor who just committed a huge act of terror and whos standing installed political party calls for the elimination of the country. They live in a region where their ethnic group has essentially been wiped out systematically in all neighboring countries. So, "Stop the genocide" and…

>> This, but further more, there are 100s of comments about "the genocide" here, but almost none about what Israel should do. They should do what all other countries do when they are attacked: defend themselves and not seek to take the attack as an opportunity to invade their neighbours. You want an example? Look at the recent India and Pakistan crisis, and the Thailand and Cambodia crisis that is only now being reso…

The Cambodia - Thailand conflict is more like Gaza pre-10/7. Cambodia shot some rockets, killed some innocent Thai, and Thailand responded with overwhelming firepower. Same as when Gaza used to shoot rockets and kill civilians, then get destructive counter attacks from Israel.

The equivalent of the current Israeli-Palestine war would be Cambodia breaking a ceasefire to kill, torture and rape 1,000 civilians, and took hundreds back as hostages.

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Post by buyucu »

sc970 wrote: post #788
buyucu wrote: post #758

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Israel will not be satisfied with anything less than the complete eradication of the Palestinian people. It is hard to make peace when one side is hell-bent on mass murder.

"It is hard to make peace when one side is hell-bent on mass murder." Is this referring to the Hamas Charter? Suspect it is a typo and you meant to say both sides.

What did you expect? Israel has been expanding more and more into Palestine, murdering and displacing Palestinians who live there. Did you really think nobody would fight back?

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Post by alkyon »

nailer wrote: post #879

Posting at the top to point out that if you saw the image of a starving child recently, you’re looking at images of a child with a genetic disorder and you should reconsider which media you consume. You can also find more images of Mohammed al-Mutawaq, an 18-month-old with cerebral palsy, with his healthier sibling - which was cropped by the media to exaggerate claims of starvation.

You should also reconsider what you consumes.

Must be some nasty stuff if you claim that Gaza children starvation is a media conspiracy fueled by BBC and Unicef.

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

starik36 wrote: post #900
ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #512

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> You are operating until a false premise that Palestinians/Hamas are some sort of children and bear no responsibility for anything at all. Where in reality, the war could have been over in 5 minutes if they released the hostages at any time during the past 3 years. It still can be over in 5 minutes if they choose to do that. But no, they will put as many of their own people in harm's way as necessary to get to the w…

Sure, technically. But to this day, majorities support Oct 7th attack, both in Gaza and West Bank. That's like saying in WW2, we can't attack Berlin because there are innocent Germans who don't support Nazis. So how exactly do you propose to fight Hamas in an urban environment when it's blending in to the population that largely supports them (and only put on a uniform during propaganda events like hostage handovers)…

> to this day, majorities support Oct 7th attack, both in Gaza and West Bank

Likewise, to this day, majorities of israelis support the israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestine.

> That's like saying in WW2, we can't attack Berlin because there are innocent Germans who don't support Nazis.

There's a difference between collateral damage and the israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestine. That said, the intentional firebombing of German civilians was arguably a war crime, so you're arguing against your point here. Indeed, the geneva conventions are partially motivated by the atrocities that occurred during WWII, with the aim of making sure they happened "never again".

> So how exactly do you propose to fight Hamas in an urban environment when it's blending in to the population that largely supports them

That's not my problem, but ethnic cleansing is obviously an illegal and wrong way to go about it. Still though, an answer to your request can be found here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44718080

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Post by bigyabai »

nailer wrote: post #898
fahhem wrote: post #572

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> how else would Gazans eat? UNRWA, WFP, etc. You know, the ones with decades of experience in Gaza and other war zones with sites, warehouses, and all the other infrastructure necessary to support a population under siege.

> UNRWA The one that has a unique definiton of 'refugee' that doesn't correspond with UNs the normal definition of the term? Where many of the staff work for Hamas? Where their schools teach children to be martyrs? The one many countries have halted funding for because of this? If you want the UN, fine, UNHCR, the normal UN refugee agency.

Since when did the UN's definitions start mattering to Israel, all of the sudden? That's a new development I haven't heard yet, tell me more about it.
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