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Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by runarberg »

gryzzly wrote: post #910
runarberg wrote: post #909

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Calling the oct 7 terrorist attacks a genocide against the Jews it at best hyperbolic and at worst an apologia for an actual genocide. Your second paragraph makes me fear you are doing the latter. I don’t think you realize just how hateful your post actually is. You are trying to paint a picture of victims of genocide that somehow deserved the horrors done against them, or at best denies the very real horrors another…

lies and hate inciting against jews do, from your perspective I guess? let me ask this - are you from the region? Have you been to middle east?

What does that matter?

After months and years of the Khmer Rouge doing the Cambodian Genocide, and after most international experts and commentators (except Noam Chomsky for some reason) concluded that the Cambodian genocide was in fact a genocide. Non-south-east Asians were still allowed to hold opinion on it. And further more, if somebody (like Noam Chomsky) would be spewing apologia for the Cambodian genocide, more people than just South-east Asians were allowed to call it out as such.

Edit: Attaching the relevant Wikipedia article - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide_denial

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by gryzzly »

cess11 wrote: post #903
gryzzly wrote: post #901

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Did you dig deep into what Syrian regime did to Syrians? What about Russian atrocities? Not to mention Sudan. Maybe you were defending Yezidis? I doubt you ever mentioned any war crimes in any of these conflicts.

The israeli impunity has likely made Russia more ruthless in Ukraine, with for example attacks on hospitals. Sudan is an interesting example to bring up, since the RSF is closely connected with Israel's friends in the UAE, and the UAE has recently asked the US to help them avoid responsibility for what they've done. The Assad regime clinged to power in part in the way it did because it was what Israel preferred, isra…

as I assumed, any evil in the world is because of jews (and their "friends") in your eyes. Was it also the jews who made Russia ruthless in Chechnya? How about Gulag? Must have been Israel’s fault! And what about the Khmer Rouge? I’m sure you will find a jewish trace there. Thanks for clarifying, but be aware your hate is always transparent to some.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by gryzzly »

cess11 wrote: post #794
weatherlite wrote: post #749

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> The palestinians do not have the capability to do "extreme violence", they just don't have the materials and tools and suppliers needed, because they suffer under occupation or in refugee camps. They did. They used that capacity to kill as many people as they could - they reached around 1200 people (+ 250 more kidnapped - many of whom died later) which is not a lack of capacity, and then the war started. Now they h…

Those numbers are pathetic compared to the suffering caused by the israeli occupation of palestinians. The palestinian armed groups had a lot more weaponry than they brought along on October 7th, in an operation that was explicitly aimed at military personnel and bases, as detailed in the israeli report published a while back. They concluded for example that the palestinians in the unorganised second wave arrived at…

There are proofs against everything you wrote here. How can capturing children as hostages be "explicitly aimed at military personnel"? OK, they didn’t find a military base, so why not butcher party goers, right? Completely normal conclusion. Just read what you type out.

The puny resistance with Iranian and Qatari support? Tens of thousands of rockets and drones are "puny"?

> “We have local factories for everything, for rockets with ranges of 250 km, for 160 km, 80km, and 10 km. We have factories for mortars and their shells. … We have factories for Kalashnikovs (rifles) and their bullets. We’re manufacturing the bullets with permission from the Russians. We’re building it in Gaza,” Ali Baraka, head of Hamas National Relations Abroad, is quoted as saying.

You should stop lying and stop the hate against a people who defend themselves.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

vvram wrote: post #866
Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #840

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> Wiz is very cohesive with a much nicer API and great UX I actually don't care for Wiz's UX. If you're a manager and just want to get an idea of what your security posture looks like, it's great. They have a million dashboards for you. But if you're an AppSec Engineer that just wants to see which EC2 instances have which CVEs, it's kind of a pain in the pass and takes way too many clicks.

How would you like to consume that information?

I like the way InsightVM does it.

There's a single button I click that'll list all my VMs, then a single click (usually a middle click to open a new tab) to view all the CVEs in each VM.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by gryzzly »

runarberg wrote: post #911
gryzzly wrote: post #910

Earlier quoted context omitted.

lies and hate inciting against jews do, from your perspective I guess? let me ask this - are you from the region? Have you been to middle east?

What does that matter? After months and years of the Khmer Rouge doing the Cambodian Genocide, and after most international experts and commentators (except Noam Chomsky for some reason) concluded that the Cambodian genocide was in fact a genocide. Non-south-east Asians were still allowed to hold opinion on it. And further more, if somebody (like Noam Chomsky) would be spewing apologia for the Cambodian genocide, mor…

I just think you don’t know what you are talking about, not that you aren’t entitled to hold an opinion. You are spewing lies and hate, and the reason is your ignorance. None of the Palestinians who seek peace will agree with anything you typed out here. They understand really well that there are two foul players – Hamas and Religious Settlers (and Bibi who plays to their tune) and they seek ways to establish bridges with Israelis (just like Israelis do with Palestinians). But you have no idea about any of that, because you read Wikipedia, and BBC and random click-baiting press.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by runarberg »

gryzzly wrote: post #915
runarberg wrote: post #911

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does that matter? After months and years of the Khmer Rouge doing the Cambodian Genocide, and after most international experts and commentators (except Noam Chomsky for some reason) concluded that the Cambodian genocide was in fact a genocide. Non-south-east Asians were still allowed to hold opinion on it. And further more, if somebody (like Noam Chomsky) would be spewing apologia for the Cambodian genocide, mor…

I just think you don’t know what you are talking about, not that you aren’t entitled to hold an opinion. You are spewing lies and hate, and the reason is your ignorance. None of the Palestinians who seek peace will agree with anything you typed out here. They understand really well that there are two foul players – Hamas and Religious Settlers (and Bibi who plays to their tune) and they seek ways to establish bridges…

I don’t know what I have said constitutes either a lie or hate. I’m not making generalizing statements about racial groups, nor painting a picture about victims of violence which seeks to minimize or justify said violence. What I am doing is interpreting said violence in a less hateful way as you have, and pointing out how you interpretation is harmful.

Now I live around Palestinians, I have spoken with Palestinian refugees, both in Iceland and the USA. I have attended lectures from Palestinians, I follow Palestinians on social media (both the diaspora, from Gaza, West-Bank, and East Jerusalem). And my interaction with them paints a very different picture than you. The Palestinians I have spoken to don care about Hamas, they may even support Hamas, their primary concern is the Israeli occupation, and sometimes the Israeli settler-colonial national psyche (i.e. Zionism). They are way more pissed at the Israeli government, the behavior it has normalized, the support it gets from Israeli citizens, and the complicity from both Western countries, but especially the inactivity of other Arab countries. They may bring up religious settlers, but that would just be one example of a much larger list of the systemic oppression they experience. They may bring up Hamas, but that is getting into the nitty grit of Palestine politics, they are actually more likely to criticize Palestinian Authority than Hamas.

Now my experience in interacting with Palestinians is probably very skewed to the left. I meet people in protests, on social media I follow gay’s rights activists, etc. So no doubt there are more conservative Palestinians who’s primary concern is Hamas and religious settlers, however I don’t think that makes my view ignorant nor hateful, just a little biased. However if I were to reduce the Palestinian opinion to only include the more simplistic and conservative one, that would not only make my option ignorant, but also perhaps a little racist.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by gryzzly »

runarberg wrote: post #916
gryzzly wrote: post #915

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just think you don’t know what you are talking about, not that you aren’t entitled to hold an opinion. You are spewing lies and hate, and the reason is your ignorance. None of the Palestinians who seek peace will agree with anything you typed out here. They understand really well that there are two foul players – Hamas and Religious Settlers (and Bibi who plays to their tune) and they seek ways to establish bridges…

I don’t know what I have said constitutes either a lie or hate. I’m not making generalizing statements about racial groups, nor painting a picture about victims of violence which seeks to minimize or justify said violence. What I am doing is interpreting said violence in a less hateful way as you have, and pointing out how you interpretation is harmful. Now I live around Palestinians, I have spoken with Palestinian r…

thanks for the explaining where you come from.

it is indeed sad to hear that so few of the palestinians you have talked to are interested in peace and introspection. hamas is objectively the main reason for gazans’ misery and yet you didn’t meet the brave people who speak against them. anyway, it is also shunned in that community (especially expats who go to pro-palestinian demonstrations) to doubt the narrative of the pro-violence factions.

I can recommend you to seek such voices if you really want to know more and to actually contribute anything rational towards peaceful life in the region.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by runarberg »

gryzzly wrote: post #917
runarberg wrote: post #916

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know what I have said constitutes either a lie or hate. I’m not making generalizing statements about racial groups, nor painting a picture about victims of violence which seeks to minimize or justify said violence. What I am doing is interpreting said violence in a less hateful way as you have, and pointing out how you interpretation is harmful. Now I live around Palestinians, I have spoken with Palestinian r…

thanks for the explaining where you come from. it is indeed sad to hear that so few of the palestinians you have talked to are interested in peace and introspection. hamas is objectively the main reason for gazans’ misery and yet you didn’t meet the brave people who speak against them. anyway, it is also shunned in that community (especially expats who go to pro-palestinian demonstrations) to doubt the narrative of t…

> hamas is objectively the main reason for gazans’ misery and yet you didn’t meet the brave people who speak against them

This is the kind of speech I was talking about. You are shifting the blame of the Gaza genocide, and the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories away from the perpetrators of said genocide and occupation and onto the people who are fighting said occupation.

This is exactly the kind of speech which was very common in 19th and 20th century Europe and was used to justify their numerous genocide against indigenous peoples, who fell victims to European colonial conquest and oppression.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by saagarjha »

no-reply wrote: post #899
saagarjha wrote: post #890

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Do you think you could get away with doing that?

If you have alumni at senior positions internally, it shouldn't be that hard to strike a deal. Old but relevant - https://scheerpost.com/2022/11/01/revealed-the-former-israel...

For $32 billion?

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by cess11 »

gryzzly wrote: post #906
cess11 wrote: post #897

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That's one video with material from the Nova festival, and no, as you can see, the palestinian ran after them for quite some distance rather than just kill them. It is unclear whether he tried to take hostages or not. I've also explained that this event was unorganised and spontaneous, it wasn't an organised resistance activity such as I meant above. To me this material prompts the wish for justice, with due process…

No use arguing with such a hateful person, but other people can easily see what Gaza was before they launched their genocide against Jews on October 7: https://x.com/imshin https://t.me/ImshinJ Check how does "concentration camp" look before Hamas started a war at expense of the peaceful population on both sides. There are many "Before October 7" videos on there, all with timestamps and sources from clips that Gazans…

Genocide denial and denial of state atrocities are illegal in some jurisdictions. Are you sure this is a risk you're willing to take?

At October 7th the Gaza strip was under occupation, with the population on the verge of starvation. That is not peaceful. It was also the deadliest year in a long time for palestinians in the occupied West Bank. An openly genocidal, kahanist-likudnik government had taken power in Israel.

Whatever "luxuries" got into the Gaza strip came through the smuggling network. And either way, armed resistance to occupation is a right. I'd argue it should be under apartheid as well.

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