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U.S. pauses all military aid to Ukraine

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Post by libertine »

arandomusername wrote: post #816
skissane wrote: post #794

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> And how are you going to do that? Russia has been gaining land. Currently, Russia is winning. Winning, but winning very slowly. Unless Ukraine collapses, Russian victory is likely years away (depending of course on what Russia decides to consider “victory”) Although Ukraine is outnumbered, the fact they are mostly playing defence not offence gives them an advantage If Ukraine drags this out for long enough, there i…

Russia controls large portions of Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson Oblasts. I imagine walking away with those areas would be a huge victory for them. How long can Ukraine drag this out? They are suffering manpower issues more than Russia. I don't think it's likely that Russia will lose its patience before Ukraine. I wish, but I don't see it. Their economy is somewhat dependent on their military-industrial…

It's hard to see that as a huge victory at the cost of more than 900.00p casualties for something Russia has plenty of - land.

Also economic collapse (high inflation, high interest rates, and no industry).

Ukraine just needs to continue to chip away at them, the bigger they are, the bigger the fall, and Russians aren't paying the price for this blunder yet.

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Post by AlecSchueler »

jesterson wrote: post #835
stuffoverflow wrote: post #142

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Ukraine has retained its independence. That's a big achievement on its own.

lol, the country is in shambles, it's completely dependent on external financing and military assistance, let alone If you call that independence, I wouldn't want one for my country.

What state would it have been in wit assistance? Would you be happy with that situation in your country?

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Post by libertine »

arandomusername wrote: post #828
dlahoda wrote: post #825

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> Ukraine is kidnapping people on the streets to send them to the front lines. may you expand on this?

There are many videos on twitter if you'd like to see recorded examples. But basically, TCC is the recruitment office in Ukraine, and they will pull up in unmarked vans and grab and force them into a van. Here's an article about it: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/11/28/ukrainian-... A decent video example (ignore the text): https://x.com/East_Calling/status/1896019613198270859 - there's many more. It's a…

Those videos are amplified greatly by Russian propaganda bots, one thing to put them in check is to ask how many hundreds of thousands of young Russian men fled and climbed through walls once the mobilization was announced by the regime.

I think it was 1.000.000+ men lmao

Now that's trying to escape war. In every war there's people avoiding conscription, and Russians do it by orders or magnitude we probably haven't seen on record.

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Post by whoitwas »

gershy wrote: post #626
DidYaWipe wrote: post #88

The USA stands in miserable disgrace.

I'm not sure what to think. Ukraine can't militarily defeat russia or reclaim its lost territory, and as long as it continues to try to do so, there will be war and the world will be less stable. But if a line is not drawn against russia, I think we have every reason to believe putin will continue to conquer more land over time. Russia is the source of instability, but it can't be defeated or reasoned with. What to d…

Can't be defeated? Are you a Russian bot?

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Post by vastinfest »

riehwvfbk wrote: post #808
bryant wrote: post #376

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Oh come now.. Don't just judge everyone by your own example.

There are groups of people who e.g. 3D print drone parts, along with all the "posturing".

From my own experience - it is quite easy to go through more than $500 of money in filament alone.

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Post by ropejumper »

HPMOR wrote: post #403
ponector wrote: post #175

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Also you can donate directly for the kamikaze drones here: https://www.sternenkofund.org/donate They are extremely effective in countering russian troops. One drone costs as little as 500$

I know this is __so___ off topic, but the $ goes in front of the value for USD. It should be $500. Again, again, I know read the room, there's a tragic war going on, and the US is becoming complicit in the tragedy. But if we don't have time to be pedantic about monetary symbols then what good is the freedom we still possess.

Many americans put the euro sign before the numerical value even though most (afaik all) countries that use the euro put it after. This is such a weird thing to get bothered by.

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Post by xkcd1963 »

quickthrowman wrote: post #766
ratg13 wrote: post #215

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Tarriff other countries and then establish a free trade agreement with Russia to boost their economy. One wonders if they will make American packaging for their products, or just sell the Russian labeled products straight on US shelves.

What are they going to sell us? Russia is a gas station.

Dignity?

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Post by xkcd1963 »

ponector wrote: post #821
codedokode wrote: post #668

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Because West has no means to put more pressure on Russia (they cannot even stop buying natural gas), so it has to talk nicely. US cannot demand, for example, that Russia gives them a share of their minerals and generally cannot demand anything. Actually in hindsight the best time for negotiations was somewhere in end of 2022, but that chance is long gone. But while West cannot demand, it still can offer (i.e. removin…

>West has no means to put more pressure on Russia This is simply false. West can send more arms, more tanks (US sent 31 old Abrams tanks since 2022) more long range missiles. You know how easy it is to defend Ukrainian cities against airborne cruise missiles? Bomb few airbases used by strategic bombers. Bomb few factories used for ballistic missiles production. If west bite putin's bluff about WWIII then west can tra…

You don't poke the hornets nest. Soon you would see fullscale mobilisation in Russia and you have essentially ww3.

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Post by xkcd1963 »

justin66 wrote: post #756
codedokode wrote: post #668

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Because West has no means to put more pressure on Russia (they cannot even stop buying natural gas), so it has to talk nicely. US cannot demand, for example, that Russia gives them a share of their minerals and generally cannot demand anything. Actually in hindsight the best time for negotiations was somewhere in end of 2022, but that chance is long gone. But while West cannot demand, it still can offer (i.e. removin…

> Because West has no means to put more pressure on Russia This is extremely silly. The west has hundreds of billions of dollars of Russian money, the west can supply Ukraine with weapons that are more modern than the nineties era stuff we've been sending, and the west just generally hasn't taken any of the steps it would take if NATO were really at war with Russia, as Russia whinges about. Why is Russia even connect…

Great, stealing money is soo European.

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Post by egberts1 »

openasocket wrote: post #400
egberts1 wrote: post #360

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How do you intend to conduct an election during an active war when 20% of the country, over 3 million Ukrainians, are under Russian occupation? Do they just not get to vote?

Easy, you suspend the constitution.

He’s in year 6 of his 5 year term.

American journalist Gonzalo Lira killed while imprisoned by Zelensky. He made the mistake of being critical of Zelensky.

Declared martial law Feb 2022 and has banned elections since then, suspending Ukraine's constitution.

Starting in 2022, he's banned 12 political parties so far and used his "Department of Justice" to seize many of their assets.

He's also banned TV channels associated with his political opponents.

Banned a Christian Church.

Passed a law in 2022 to censor journalists and combined all news into 1 gov’t station.

Journalists investigating his corruption get conscripted and thrown on the front lines to die.

Who knew that the old WWII adage of being threaten to being "sent to the Eastern Front" to die is still a thing to this very day. If that doesn't speaks volumes of the Soviet^H^H^H^H^HHRussian, I don't know what else is.

Sadly, US Rep. Chuck Schumer (D-CA) calls Zelensky "the leader of the free world".

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