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Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by alistairSH »

unethical_ban wrote: post #888
nis0s wrote: post #877

I think the only relevant issue is that someone with prior associations with The Com may be vulnerable to extortion, but simply having been associated with the group doesn’t mean much by itself. Law enforcement hires people from “the other side” all the time as they have relevant domain knowledge, and navigational skills of such spaces. Saying that the federal government, or its contractors, should never hire such pe…

Isn't the issue that there hasn't been any clearance issued? News reports are the vetting.

Yes, not only was there no formal vetting, the access granted was extremely wide.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by titzer »

le-mark wrote: post #873
bfrog wrote: post #841

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This only works even remotely if the politicians agree to work together on some level. Modern US politics went all in on Newt Gingrich’s blockade method to ensure the big bad democrats can’t look like they ever do anything. And here we are with only slightly less broken healthcare with the ACA, a plan originally from GOP, which is constantly hounded on for being terrible. All while drug and medical prices fleece ever…

Everyone reading this should research the end of life healthcare situation in the US. In the current system you will be destitute, your assets will be sucked dry until you have nothing, only then will you qualify for Medicaid. Only the wealthy can die with assets to pass on. We are currently experiencing this with our parents. The system is set up so social security pays just enough to not qualify for Medicaid and Me…

It's funny how that works out. Welp, let's have a look at how that stock market is doing....oh look, more GDP growth, everything is hunky dory.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by rcpt »

empath75 wrote: post #905
nis0s wrote: post #877

I think the only relevant issue is that someone with prior associations with The Com may be vulnerable to extortion, but simply having been associated with the group doesn’t mean much by itself. Law enforcement hires people from “the other side” all the time as they have relevant domain knowledge, and navigational skills of such spaces. Saying that the federal government, or its contractors, should never hire such pe…

Nobody, I think, is suggesting that nobody should hire those people, but when law enforcement hires those people, they put them through extensive screening and are careful about what they give them access to.

Also "the other side" here is the NIH

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by commandlinefan »

DanielHB wrote: post #815

I just want to highlight one thing about this whole government takeover debacle. The reason you have the separation of power (legislative, judiciary, executive) is not to be efficient, it is to prevent generational abuse. Even a well intentioned benign autocrat if given power would not part ways with said power voluntarily. So even if the current administration is "good" there is no reason why this kind of power coul…

> this kind of power couldn't be abused by subsequent administrations

I'm old enough to remember nearly identical rhetoric during Bill Clinton's presidency. I suspect that somebody older than me would remember the same even further back. Claiming that the president is abusing his power in irreversible ways just seems to me to be an American tradition.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by IAmGraydon »

jdross wrote: post #807
demosthanos wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where are you getting these stories from? Are you claiming to know people and to have received firsthand accounts, or is this stuff written down somewhere where the rest of us can see it and read it?

These are people I personally know working “at DOGE” (appointed in departments, but under DOGE umbrella)

>appointed in departments, but under DOGE umbrella

What does that mean?

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by DFHippie »

HumblyTossed wrote: post #860
derbOac wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally think it says volumes about how those in the Trump-Musk group (Musk group?) see this. They see the task as infiltrating an adversary, requiring someone with the technical skills to do so but who is also disposable. This in their mind is not about improving anything in the government for citizens, or with regard to US interests, it's about gaining access to a hostile entity without regard to their interes…

> I personally think it says volumes about how those in the Trump-Musk group (Musk group?) see this. It's more the Musk, Thiel, Vance Group. Trump is simply a tool.

He wields the sharpie. He's basically a notary public.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by md5crypto »

acdha wrote: post #450
jimmar wrote: post #433

Apparently 18 years old is old enough to be handed a rifle and sent into war but not access a database.

That 18 year old recruit goes through training and has to pass tests before they’re allowed to use that rifle. Ask a vet how much time they spent training on following orders, using force only when and how authorized, etc. and the difference will obvious. Nobody is saying that the administration can’t hire people, the objection is to bypassing all of the rules which previous administrations have followed.

What rules did big balls need to pass in order to run an SQL read query?

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by tomrod »

elif wrote: post #811

I think this makes the picture quite clear. The only criteria for their selection was their ability and willingness to exfil data as fast as possible. In order to facilitate the trump blitz, as much technical action as possible needed to happen in a timeframe constrained by court procedural mechanisms.

This is why it is pretty frustrating. If they actually wanted to audit things, they'd bring in forensic accountants. Instead, they brought in "script kiddies". You aren't finding evidence of crimes after 2 days with SQL access.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by Ylpertnodi »

anoncow wrote: post #701

We have too many regulations. I support what DOGE is doing. Thank you dang for letting the world see this topic. I think pg would agree. /s

>I support what DOGE is doing.

I rather suspect your support will last until the leopards eat your face.

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