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Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

#911

With the greatest of compassion and respect: America - get a fucking hold of yourselves, would you please?

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Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

#912

Again the DEM party took another opportunity to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. They should have nominated Mark Kelly. The GOP ran on "this bitch hates America". You can't run on that against a 4 star rear admiral who also went into space.

> You can't run on that against a 4 star rear admiral who also went into space.

If I've learned anything since 2016 it's that you absolutely can convince ½ of Americans that a 4 star rear admiral who also went into space hates America.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

#913

Again the DEM party took another opportunity to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. They should have nominated Mark Kelly. The GOP ran on "this bitch hates America". You can't run on that against a 4 star rear admiral who also went into space.

Nah, you absolutely can. A decent portion of the country still thinks a certain Navy lieutenant faked injuries in order to get a Purple Heart.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

#914

Even if you support his economic approach, for example, wouldn't his criminal behaviour, or his racist and transphobic views disqualify him? One does not wash away the other.

I'd expect plenty of people voted Trump just to spite this kind of rhetoric.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

#916

Parties basically switched sides this election. From 2008 to now: - Pro war party: Repubs -> Dems - Dick Cheney party: Repubs -> Dems - Elitist party: Repubs -> Dems - Working class party: Dems -> Repubs - Pro free speech party: Dems -> Repubs - Bigger spending party: Dems -> Repubs - Skeptical of large corps: Dems -> Repubs There are some issues where they haven't switched (eg. abortion)

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Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

#917

Parties basically switched sides this election. From 2008 to now: - Pro war party: Repubs -> Dems - Dick Cheney party: Repubs -> Dems - Elitist party: Repubs -> Dems - Working class party: Dems -> Repubs - Pro free speech party: Dems -> Repubs - Bigger spending party: Dems -> Repubs - Skeptical of large corps: Dems -> Repubs There are some issues where they haven't switched (eg. abortion)

I don't buy that Repubs are the free speech party (or even that Dems were the free speech party). Republican complaints about free speech were almost entirely self-serving and never on principal.(this is not to say judges or other conservative thought leaders may not be pro-free speech) but for the political parties: commitment to free speech comes from the tension between the two parties. Give either of them too much power and free speech is out the window.

Also, pro war party is a weird thing to say. Repubs in 2000 wanted to be the aggressors. Defense to Ukraine has thus far been pretty bi-partisan.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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post #910

US politics isn't easy to understand as an outsider. It looks like Harris was was an ok candidate for the core democrat voter and a terrible candidate to win a populist election in what is essentially a deeply divided and mostly conservative country. She didn't address the swing voters greatest concerns which was their decline in real wealth due to inflation and fear of change. I am sure money and influence had a lot…

Just FYI based on your comment you might not be aware but just on ads D's outspent the R's 4.5 billion to 3.5 billion (https://www.axios.com/2024/10/31/democrats-republicans-ad-sp...).

In general D's always outspend and out raise R's.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

#920
post #751

incumbents all around the world have performed terribly post COVID. UK, Canada, Japan, France, Italy, have all had landslide or shocking election results. Unsure what the general mood is that can lead to Keir Starmer dropping 30 points in approval months after winning in a landslide, but the mood of general discontent may be relevant in the United States as well. It seems whatever the status quo / incumbent advantage…

It feels like in many cases the voters essentially do not know what they want, other than something different than what they have now.

Which seems to produce the ironic result you observe, that winning can be damaging.

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