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Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by malwrar »

rustcleaner wrote: post #791
preaching5271 wrote: post #24

I appreciate Kim Dotcom for running MegaUpload and later Mega, in a time when the internet was younger and wilder. Also for his pirate spirit and "stick it to the man" attitude. But everything has a limit, specifically his resistance against the law, even if he hid it behind virtues. I think it's clear for everybody that one cannot get away with this kind of stuff, once governments get involved. Isn't it wiser to sto…

>Isn't it wiser to stop at some point, and find other stuff to do, even if all your nerves say otherwise? No, you make tools which are easily copied and spread which disempower states and groups and instead empower individuals to act unimpeded. You make tools which make it impossible to enforce copyright or any other state imperative because everybody has the tools needed to neutralize the group attempting to use for…

The problem is, then they just go after the tools. There’s absolutely nothing stopping one from creating a pirate streaming tool based on e.g. torrents, but popcorntime doesn’t exist precisely because the movie industry frowned intensely at them. The core problem is that the government, if compelled to act, seems able to do whatever it wants to protect rich people’s interests. Cute loopholes like making tools vs sharing content are covered over eventually, hell even links are taken down now by DMCA requests.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by popcalc »

petre wrote: post #509
skullone wrote: post #459

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except, he paid people for, and promoted the upload of copywrited works. He knowingly participated and basically tailored his products to pirating. Some people love him, but he will see his day in court apparently, but no one wants to even deal with him because he's gone crazy.

Sure, pirating means comandeering of a ship, not distribtion of copyrighted works. He probably has a plan in a nearby Pacific jurisdiction like Vanuatu. Best of luck!

>https://www.tatler.com/article/inigo-philbrick-art-dealer-ar...

Vanuatu is a no-go.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by pmarreck »

liamwire wrote: post #814
rustcleaner wrote: post #797

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To add: you know with the stable-diffusion function, there are ranges of vectors whereby technically just conjuring them is 15 years federal and possessing them is 5 each. That is 20-25% of a lifetime in one, 7.5% in the other! You know how nuts that sounds to me as a mathematician?!

It’s not nuts when you stop being intentionally obtuse and speak plainly: yes, child abuse material can be represented by a variety of mathematical means, but it’s abhorrent nature makes it morally correct for those laws to exist.

I've had to avoid taking certain cutesy photos of my 3 year old toddler son because he is sometimes naked (example: bathtime or beach) and I have to fear my innocent photos being misidentified as CSAM.

What's crazy is that my library contains naked photos of ME as a toddler (I scanned a bunch of old slides in a few years ago) and I have to of course wonder if that is going to get flagged. (My parents were German immigrants. Germans DNGAF about human nudity, unlike the puritanical Americans.)

There's a cost to automating this. You might say "well a human can tell" but humans don't scale.

Regarding the evaluation of everything else, I find it useful to ask what the concrete demonstrable harm is that has been done. Not the hypothetical harm, mind you. So for automatic generation of self-indulgent pornographic material (or for example things that are not even possible in reality such as... hentai?), I don't see an issue unless it is acted upon and demonstrably harms someone or violates consent (harm caused by creating a court case should not count towards this since that is circular reasoning). Most people who are only attracted to adults have fapped to content that is something they would never do in reality; I don't think it's a strong argument that the mere possibility that that might occur is enough to ban it.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by PaulRobinson »

EugeneOZ wrote: post #880
PaulRobinson wrote: post #872

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 10 years from now they’ll be busting down doors for sharing illegal memes (Seems to already be the case in the UK). UK law does not prohibit memes. It prohibits incitement to riot, as does US law. It prohibits incitement to murder, as does US law. In fact, these acts are illegal in almost every democracy in the World, even the most progressive and liberal ones, because they are reasonable statutes to extend common…

That case of murder was not the only reason. And while it is based on misinformation (and I agree it was made on purpose), just one case would not cause the riots. It was just “the last drop”.

Perhaps you could explain the previous drops. I don't think they exist, other than as disinformation and propaganda.

Migration of all forms is at a record high in the UK [0], yet violent crime is at an all-time low. How is violent crime correlated to migration, as so many people claim on Twitter, WhatsApp groups and Facebook pages?

"What about the money we spend on them?", some ask. Well, contrary to popular belief, asylum seekers don't get mainstream benefits [1] and legal migrants aren't entitled to public funds until they have been granted indefinite leave to remain [2]. NHS costs need to be paid for either through the IHS scheme, or directly at 150% of cost [3]

"Oh, employed are they? Taking jobs off locals, are they?", the pub bore starts to snort. Well, no. Nobody really wants to spend 12 hours a day running a corner shop, or working in a field picking sprouts on minimum wage, which is why there are record levels of job vacancies in the UK right now. [4]

I'll ask again then, where are the previous drops? Migration does not cause increases in crime by any measure, the only costs incurred are caused by delays in processing, they're not "taking anybody's else's job" and overall migration leads to higher tax incomes, and they pay their way for services through taxes on jobs no local wants.

So please, spell it out for me. I'm really curious about those previous drops. I suspect that you may have been lied to.

[0] https://izajodm.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/2193-9039-...

[1] https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn01...

[2] https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN06...

[3] https://www.gov.uk/healthcare-immigration-application/how-mu...

[4] https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwor...

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Post by ur-whale »

This raises an interesting question: when you piss off the current hegemon (for good or bad reasons, not the point anyways), where can you currently go to get out of its reach ?

Asking, because his "plan" is very likely that. Some folks have been know to travel in boxes inside a container [1]

All of the anglosphere is clearly not a good destination choice as they are basically all vassal states.

Russia does not look to hot right now either, and the PKR is basically not an option for a very long list of reason.

China ?

Any other suggestions ?

Asking for a friend.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Ghosn

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by EugeneOZ »

PaulRobinson wrote: post #914
EugeneOZ wrote: post #880

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That case of murder was not the only reason. And while it is based on misinformation (and I agree it was made on purpose), just one case would not cause the riots. It was just “the last drop”.

Perhaps you could explain the previous drops. I don't think they exist, other than as disinformation and propaganda. Migration of all forms is at a record high in the UK [0], yet violent crime is at an all-time low. How is violent crime correlated to migration, as so many people claim on Twitter, WhatsApp groups and Facebook pages? "What about the money we spend on them?", some ask. Well, contrary to popular belief,…

Maybe here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_Kingdo...

> The 2023 CONTEST report indicated that 75 per cent of the Security Service (MI5)'s caseload was from monitoring Islamist threats.

I don't support the violence and ultra-right (or just right) wings. I think that people have the right to protest.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by SentientAtom »

You really need not look any further than this thread for what-about-isms and attack-the-man arguments. The fact Hacker News of all places is going to bat for the RIAA and US Industrial Complex leaves me disappointed. Top comment reads something like "Yea but maybe its time to call it quits", well I guess that's how meaningful fights should end, giving up because the adversity is too great or the fight has lasted too long. Shame.

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Post by ndriscoll »

desas wrote: post #887
allarm wrote: post #873

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Mp3s were yesterday literally long time ago And what do you think people use now to store their music offline?

I'm sure there's still a large number of people downloading mp3s and other files to permanently store. But really, how often are people offline? For me it's only when I'm on a flight, and I can prepare for that by using spotify or youtube and pressing the download button on a playlist.

I'm offline any time I leave the house. I have music, maps, books, etc. stored on my phone, so why would I pay for (expensive) data?

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Post by talldayo »

SentientAtom wrote: post #917

You really need not look any further than this thread for what-about-isms and attack-the-man arguments. The fact Hacker News of all places is going to bat for the RIAA and US Industrial Complex leaves me disappointed. Top comment reads something like "Yea but maybe its time to call it quits", well I guess that's how meaningful fights should end, giving up because the adversity is too great or the fight has lasted too…

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Post by [deleted] »

SentientAtom wrote: post #917

You really need not look any further than this thread for what-about-isms and attack-the-man arguments. The fact Hacker News of all places is going to bat for the RIAA and US Industrial Complex leaves me disappointed. Top comment reads something like "Yea but maybe its time to call it quits", well I guess that's how meaningful fights should end, giving up because the adversity is too great or the fight has lasted too…

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