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Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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The key line: “Microsoft has assured us that there are positions for all OpenAl employees at this new subsidiary should we choose to join.”

Sounds a lot like MS wants to have OpenAI but without a boards that considers pesky things like morals.

Whose morals again?

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is wrong. Microsoft has no such rights and its license comes with restrictions, per the cited primary source, meaning a fork would require a very careful approach. https://www.wsj.com/articles/microsoft-and-openai-forge-awkw...

This is MSFT we're talking about. Aggressive legal maneuvers are right in their wheelhouse!

Yes, this is the exact thing they did to Stacker years ago. License the tech, get the source, create a new product, destroy Stacker, pay out a pittance and then buy the corpse. I was always amazed they couldn't pull that off with Citrix.

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I wonder how the FTC and Lina Khan will view all of this if most of the team moves over to Microsoft

It would be hard for the FTC to do anything about it as there is no acquisition of companies or IP going on. All Microsoft is doing is making job offers to recently unemployed experts in their field after their business partner set themselves on fire starting at the executive/board level.

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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If OpenAI effectively disintegrates, Microsoft seems to be the beneficiary of this chaos as Microsoft is essentially acquiring OpenAI at almost zero cost. You have IP rights to OpenAI's work, and you will have almost all the brains from OpenAI (AFAIK, MSFT has access to OpenAI's work, but it does not seem to matter). And there is no regulatory scrutiny like Activision acquisition.

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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If I weren't so adverse to conspiracy theories, I would think that this is all a big "coup" by Microsoft: Ilya conspired with Microsoft and Altman to get him fired by the board, just to make it easy for Microsoft to hire him back without fear of retaliation, along with all the engineers that would join him in the process. Then, Ilya would apologize publicly for "making a huge mistake" and, after some period, would jo…

Conspiracy theories that involve reptilian overlords and ancient aliens are suspect. Conspiracy theories that involve collusion to makes massive amounts of money are expected and should be the treated as the most likely scenario. Occam's razor does not apply to human behavior, as humans will do the most twisted things to gain power and wealth.

My theory of what happened is identical to yours, and is frankly one of the only theories that makes any sense. Everything else points to these people being mentally ill and irrational, and their success technically and monetarily does not point to that. It would be absurd to think they clown-showed themselves into billions of dollars.

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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The irony of the first extremely successful collective action in silicon valley being taken in order to save the job of a soon-to-be billionaire....

Jokes aside though I do wonder if this will awaken some degree of "class consciousness" among tech employees more generally.

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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> Remarkably, the letter’s signees include Ilya Sutskever, the company’s CTO who has been blamed for coordinating the boardroom coup against Altman in the first place. What in the world is happening at OpenAI?

It French revolution time over there. heads are flying angry mobs. Fun times
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