Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Threads, an Instagram app

apps.apple.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

911–920 of 1001 posts

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#911

Post by rumblerock »

QuantumGood wrote: post #810
rsynnott wrote: post #711

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great I mean, it's extremely clear that current Twitter leadership doesn't understand that either. They're not competing with Twitter at its prime (or at least its peak influence; personally I preferred it when it was a lot smaller in the early 10s) from a few years ago; they're competing with a website that just went completely dark to the public internet and…

Making a Twitter-like service profitable is difficult. To attempt it, you need (1) Network effects (2) Infrastructure competency I think Facebook can provide these faster at a higher level than anyone else who is attempting it. For profit, things that would help include: (1) No need for profitability (2) Profit synergies with an existing business Again, Facebook is a strong competitor here. They can start at #1 and i…

If only a small % of Meta's users start using the app, it'll quickly become an audience too big to ignore. Anyone with Twitter clout will have to maintain a presence there, and being there on Day 1 is an opportunity for them to possibly get more clout.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#912

Post by skaushik92 »

foooorsyth wrote: post #566

Anyone interested in talking about the product decisions instead of Musk/Zuck hate? - Interesting that they went with a stand-alone app instead of baking this into IG like they did with Stories (which killed Snap overnight). I wonder how much they’ll advertise the download inside of IG. - Can’t say I like the name. Doesn’t evoke much emotion in me. The term “thread” is rarely used by normies without the word “Twitter…

There’s also this symbol from a language called Tamil that looks similar:

கு

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#913

Post by madeofpalk »

bleachedsleet wrote: post #819
madeofpalk wrote: post #610

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am/was a twitter doomer, and jumped ship to mastodon ages ago. I'm not convinced Threads will manage to capture the people that used Twitter (which was significantly media & politics types) and kill Twitter. Personally, I don't have faith Meta will remain comitted to Threads. We spurn Google for killing of projects, but Meta/Facebook has a history of spinning up side projects especially for Instagram and killing th…

Mastodon ain’t it because the exact minute a minimum wage Geek Squad tech has to explain to a sorority group the reason they can’t follow each other is because they are using different federated instances is the exact minute mastodon fails to gain any mainstream appeal. It will likely always captivate some niche of users looking for a slice of the nostalgic, techie internet (Mastodon will remain an HN darling no doub…

Maybe not - I'm wont be a mastodon apologist - but I'm also pretty skeptical at Meta trying to just brute force their way to make a twitter clone.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#914

Post by nickwanninger »

keyle wrote: post #189

Wait, where is the web version? A big part of twitter is the web client... and embedded tweets all over the internet. Did they start this product by cloning instagram and removing the image centric approach? Why is this not a website first? My gut feel is that this competes as much with instagram as it does with Twitter.

It looks like threads.net is going to be a web version -- though it isn't very clear how useful it will be.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#915

Post by dahwolf »

hrisng wrote: post #691
luckystarr wrote: post #524

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People on the Fediverse expected it very much. Meta already was trying to talk to the larger instances "off the record"[1]. Fediverse users are already planning to boycott any instance which federates with Meta to block any Embrace, Extend and Extinguish moves. [1] https://fosstodon.org/@kev/110592625692688836 edit: More info here: https://wedistribute.org/2023/06/fedipact-blocking-meta/

Why? I would love for the general public to be able to connect to Fediverse. I don't love Meta per se, but let be real here, the majority of people are not gonna sign up for random instances that run by someone they don' know, to interact with a very small and niche subset of people, with a risk of it being shut down by that said person due to whatever personal circumstances they may have. It's the biggest obstacles…

It's because Mastodon is full of salty toxic doomers.

Regardless, I'm predicting that if not for a cultural clash, many instances may de-federate due to the compute cost.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#916

Post by giarc »

proxy9 wrote: post #848
giarc wrote: post #831

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Threads need to realize the importance of the blue check and implement it. Prior to Musk, I would see a tweet, open the replies and look for the blue checks to see what "prominent" people were responding. Now that the blue check means nothing, that's impossible and you have to weed through all the content. You can argue that's a good thing, that a person with 10 followers might be as interesting as someone with 100,0…

They are already doing it via Meta Verified, which is already a big step us vs Blue since they actually check your id

But you still have to pay don't you? I like verified users, but I also want to know who is prominent user. So maybe two badges? One just for verified ID and one for prominent user (the old blue check).

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#917

Post by dahwolf »

rektide wrote: post #897
hrisng wrote: post #691

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? I would love for the general public to be able to connect to Fediverse. I don't love Meta per se, but let be real here, the majority of people are not gonna sign up for random instances that run by someone they don' know, to interact with a very small and niche subset of people, with a risk of it being shut down by that said person due to whatever personal circumstances they may have. It's the biggest obstacles…

The main reason why is that Meta is a colossal vast data gathering beast, that for example flagrantly fucks around bypassing the GDPR. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36583651 Now, I personally I think it's trying to swim up the waterfall & ultimately worse for everyone, but: Mastadon specifically has had a strong history of being anti-search, anti-scraping. You aren't supposed to be surveiling folks at industri…

Mastodon's culture of anti-everything is naive. All posts (except "DMs") are public and can be scraped and made searchable at will for anyone mildly motivated to do so.

I'm honestly pretty skeptical about the fediverse aspect of Threads. It suggests that if I open a new fediverse instance and follow their accounts, I can suck in their timeline and do with it whatever I want. In particular, to bypass ads.

Hence, I could make a "best of Threads" fediverse instance without ads. Or maybe put my own ads on it.

Or, I could build my own client on top of the Threads instance.

None of this sounds very Meta to me.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#918

Post by dahwolf »

corobo wrote: post #684
hhh wrote: post #635

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This behavior is pathetic. As long as Meta is open to federation to other instances, this can only be a good thing for the entire ecosystem.

Yeah, I do get the EEE angle people are worried about but that should really be halted from the Extend phase onwards if and when it comes up, otherwise people are just going to use the popular one - which will be Threads. It will start with an established userbase. It will start with the marketing Meta can throw at it. Nobody outside of the HN crowd gives half a fluff about distributed social. They'll use the one tha…

Fully agree, been watching that space and it's insanely dysfunctional. It's a technical disaster as well as a cultural disaster.

But indeed, if the goal is to self sabotage and remain an irrelevant corner of misfits, all good.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#919

Post by hbn »

peruvian wrote: post #190
LordShredda wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because only losers use facebook. the cool kids use Instagram, a totally different thing

A lot of young people are back on Facebook for Marketplace. It's the "app" a lot of people use nowadays to find cool second hand furniture.

That's literally the extent though. And a little bit for groups. But other than that, I don't know the last time myself or any of my friends have posted a status update. Maybe the occasional wedding announcement or baby photos, but it has to be that big of an event. And then the women get more active when they become moms, cause seemingly the family who skews older wants to see the babies.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#920

Post by dahwolf »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #804
modernerd wrote: post #481

“Soon, you’ll be able to follow and interact with people on other fediverse platforms, like Mastodon. They can also find you with your full username @username@threads.net.” [1] Did not expect Fediverse integration from Meta. [1] https://9to5google.com/2023/07/03/threads-instagram-app-coun...

It won't last -- if it even launches with this feature -- pretty sure. As others have pointed out, most hosts will simply de-federate them pretty quickly anyways, and then it will become a useless feature that they turn off. I suspect it will be one-way anyways, to capitalize on the existing content produced by Mastodon users out there already while they bootstrap. There's no way they'd offer their own content up int…

The most realistic comment in the thread, you don't deserve these downvotes.

Threads development started last January. Quite obviously it's a rush job to capitalize on the fall of Twitter before BlueSky does.

They'll instantly fill it with a zillion Insta users to get a critical mass going and take things from there.

Surely they don't give a crap about any fediverse.

Post reply on HN