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It's addictive for one. There are increasing number of support groups for men who are struggling with pornography use and for their spouses in dealing with having a dependant partner. It creates a space for people to explore and normalise their distressing sexual interests without questioning the root causes. Producers will often intentionally seek out vulnerable young women and groom them with promises of fame and r…
Sugar is addictive. And it might have more effect on your lifespan than the consumption of pornography. Quality of life, too.
PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law
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Well... if you pay for this stuff, you're already having a credit card involved (for example. Maybe you're buying gift cards, and age gating can happen there!). If you're not.... maybe the decimation of free porn is not a bad thing for the universe. I do believe in privacy rights, but... free porn just doesn't feel like a must-exist thing in the sense we are all talking about. I do think that there's a universe where…
>I do believe in privacy rights, but... free porn just doesn't feel like a must-exist thing in the sense we are all talking about. ...Well gee golly gosh, did you ask anyone else in the room? Or did you unilaterally decide what's best for everyone else? And clearly you don't support privacy rights if you're willing to turn around and hand everyone else's off. Talk about saying one thing and doing something completely…
I can go to a convenience store right now and by credit for a large porn site here. It's "private" in the sense that everyone in this discussion seems to believe it to be. The fact that it's paid means that we can have privacy-preserving purchasing methods because there is money that helps to finance these checks.
Hell, pornhub could easily set up a "gift card" system where you have to go pay a dollar somewhere to get your age verified. This is far from an unsolvable problem.
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#913(time sensitive link)
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Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law
#914Way late to this, but to me this ultimately comes down to: "How do we handle the negative externalities that access to the worlds information at our fingertips has caused?" In theory parents are responsible for general outcomes of their children. However, do you expect non-tech, and realistically, non security/networking people to have the toolset to understand how to set up their networks and their devices to block…
no, this is more like dad bringing home beers, the kids get into it, and they try to go after the store or beer manufacturer.
I mean it's still happening generally under a parents roof, likely in their own homes and I'm there's already plenty of tools out there to block shit like this, at least on WiFi and I'm sure mobile devices could also block it. This ban is more about the states' religious undertones than anything.
fyi, I live in Utah and used to be Mormon.
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"They're going to have a problem" — for whom is that a problem? Porhub made the best reasonable effort. The ISPs supplied inaccurate data and are in the jurisdiction, but aren't required to supply anything at all AFAICT. Who has a problem?
Usually it's Maxmind supplying the data. They might get it from ISPs, but not necessarily.
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#916Advertising is close to a $1T industry. Many people here work for some of the most powerful corporations in the world, whose empires are built on advertising. The content we see and hear affects us. I think we would be wise to treat all kinds of media consumption, particularly novel forms such as the unlimited access to limitless amounts of porn at the touch of a button which has only been widely available 20 years at best, with some hesitancy and skepticism before we declare it as perfectly harmless.
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The issue is the way it's defined and the language in the law. What defines "drag"? As that legislation is currently written, it can be interpreted to be someone simply appearing in public. That aside, though, I don't see how banning things like drag queen storytime (which has happened locally here) are somehow a ban on sexualized events. How is that sexualized?
here is what the bill says : "'Adult cabaret performance' means a performance in a location other than an adult cabaret that features topless dancers, go-go dancers, exotic dancers, strippers, male or female impersonators who provide entertainment that appeals to a prurient interest, or similar entertainers, regardless of whether or not performed for consideration (1) It is an offense for a person to engage in an adu…
Walking down the street whistling a classic rock tune like "fat bottom girls"? Arguably fits that description. Also, a "performance" can simply be appearing in public without directly performing anything.
This sort of vage language in laws gives a lot of leeway for very selective enforcement.
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#918In short, hacker news users have quite a bit to say about porn on the internet, while another "popular" post about Google's DeepMind CEO's belief about impending general artificial intelligence remains at 35 comments. lol
Stay classy HN users. :p
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>Reddit is a company that has products targeted toward both children and adults. If they want to do that, they should act like any other business and ensure that children aren't allowed access to products that are only for adults, or at least enable parents to make that decision. Is Reddit targeted to children? My assumption has always been that due to the nature of having intermingled NSFW content, lack of content f…
> Is Reddit targeted to children? My assumption has always been that due to the nature of having intermingled NSFW content, lack of content filters, or literally any other control that Reddit was squarely aimed at older users. Among other child-oriented boards, they have a teenagers board with 3 million subscribers, so evidently, yes. > Is it my responsibility to determine that? The site hosts? The site host, given t…
Any user can make a subreddit about whatever they want. I'd wager the large majority of those users are not teenagers. Regardless, 'used by teens' != 'targeted for teens'.
>The site host, given that they're the ones providing adult material in a commercial context.
Which site host? Reddit is primarily a link aggregator.
> proposed we should create a standard system for labeling and mandate its use for commercial sites that offer adult material, just like we did with TV.
Yes! We need to make sure adults in no way be aware of or responsible for what media their children consume!
Of course that's the end game. We start with forcing companies to 'categorize' their content. Then we make it harder and harder to access the content that people like you have determined is undesirable.
>It's requiring site operators to provide the metadata needed for parents to be able to effectively parent without the solution being "lol just don't let your kid use any website at all".
It's requiring businesses to implement a massively expensive and arbitrary censorship system because parents are unable to tell their kids no. Metata wont be magically created and you know it. What's to stop a host from just refusing to label stuff porn? You full well know that what you are advocating for is the governmental review of all content on the internet.
>But we can force movie theaters to provide ratings of movies and require them to bar children from watching any pornographic films they show
The MPA is a voluntary rating scheme. You should look into it because it highlights all the obvious problems with what you are presenting. Misogyny, christian norms dictating what content can be shown, it's a disaster.
>Of course they do. They don't make it, but they're the ones providing it, and they make plenty of money doing so. hey If that's you're understanding, you don't really understand Reddit in the first place.
Look, just be a parent and stop forcing draconian policies on everyone else because you can't tell your kid no or monitor what they do online. Reddit is inappropriate for children, be responsible, don't let your children use it.
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The LDS church has prohibited polygamy for well over a century now: https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/polygamy-la... LGBT rights in Utah is also middle of the road among U.S. states. The LDS church also supported the recent Respect for Marriage Act unlike many other conservative Christian organizations. Your other points about climate and economy are extremely generic and not really a strong argument f…
> Consider travelling outside North America for once before making such egregious comparisons again. I've extensively traveled the world, to more than 70 countries, and have spent years of my life living abroad. The United States is far more diverse and heterogeneous than most other countries in the world, contrary to your statements. Some subsets of the US are regionally /very/ homogeneous, however, which is part of…
Al-Nisa 4:3 literally says:
> Each man may marry two or three or four but do not exceed this
I'm not sure if this counts as a heavy restriction.
> [...] or restrict yourself to what your right hands own of slavegirls since these do not have the same rights as wives
It also allows having an infinite number of slavegirls.