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More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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> myocarditis which no one warned me about the risk of I agree, it's now known as a "rare" side effect, but I wasn't aware either until after I got the vaccine. How did you know something was wrong? I think a lot of people (including myself) feel heart pain after the vaccine but aren't sure if it's worth going to a doctor about it.

Got the shot (J&J) on May 1st. A bit later in May, I noticed that while playing ultimate frisbee, I was getting winded more easily compared to two weeks earlier, and it was taking me longer to recover. Further investigation found a coronary artery blocked 90%, and another blocked 80%. I now have two stents in my heart. So, the last sentence in the first paragraph is "how you know" (or at least one way you know). Note…

That just sounds like regular clogged arteries to me. Not a doctor but I don’t think that has anything to do with any vaccine.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Between the 2nd dose putting me in the ER with myocarditis which no one warned me about the risk of, and a $3500 medical bill due, being told I could be maskless and free if I got the "vaccine"[1], getting covid anyways and it being nbd, and then learning that the CDC redefined the meaning of "vaccine" for this treatment[2] (imo "immunotherapy" would be a more understandable word) -- yeah I'm done. I'm not risking an…

85% of COVID-19 hospitalizations were among those not fully vaccinated.[0] 90% of people who are dying from covid are unvaccinated.[1] 10 in 100,000 people in your likely age range experience myocarditis.[2] However, yeah, if you have had a bad reaction before, you are likely to have another bad reaction. I'm sorry you went through that. > Yes it's 80% effective at eliminating _hospitalization_ but vaccinated people…

Is this thread being brigaded by antivaxxers? Seeing so many asinine comments claiming vaccines were useless…

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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I'm vaxxed. I'm boosted. I'd very much like to be done. But my children cannot be vaccinated. As a parent of a young kid it kind of feels like everyone has just moved on. I know folks in here will tell me that statistically speaking my children are unlikely to be hospitalized and so on, and I agree. But I know enough kids who got COVID and suffered the symptoms (e.g. a months-long scratchy cough) that I'm not going t…

I understand this sentiment but what is it that you actually want? Reality gets canceled forever because your kids might get a scratchy throat for a few months?

So we punish all of society to lower the probability of kids getting a disease which may make them uncomfortable for a while but may do basically nothing to them? Sorry but I'm willing to call that an acceptable risk.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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I'm double vaxxed and boosted and just spent 4 days in the hospital with Covid. I actually entered the hospital without Covid and got it while I was in there. They had the entire place divided into separate wings and I had to be transferred between them. 103 degree fever, pulse 130, was pretty awful but came out of it fine. I, too, am done with all of it. Let the chips fall where they may now.

It could have been a lot worse with no vaccine?

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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There's some real irony that the people most likely to spread COVID -- those who are vaccinated and thus don't show symptoms -- are the ones "allowed" to engage in the most risky behaviour like large gatherings at restaurants, bars, theatres, sports arenas. Meanwhile those second-class citizens who are non-vaccinated won't take those risks and will also definitely know if they are sick, hilariously probably behaving…

I think you have that backwards. Asymptomatic infection with likely transmission (plus presyptomatic transmission) was a big characteristic of COVID since day one (and one of the reasons it’s so hard to contain compared to say, Ebola). Research seems to show that vaccinated people have shorter windows of spreading virus, and (at least before omicron variant) were much less likely to have virus in their nose without s…

> Asymptomatic infection with likely transmission (plus presyptomatic transmission) was a big characteristic of COVID since day one

It was a guess from day one (because "novel virus"), that got treated as fact. (From memory) asymptomatic spread before the vaccines was found to be virtually nonexistent near the end of 2020. I don't recall findings about presymptomatic.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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85% of COVID-19 hospitalizations were among those not fully vaccinated.[0] 90% of people who are dying from covid are unvaccinated.[1] 10 in 100,000 people in your likely age range experience myocarditis.[2] However, yeah, if you have had a bad reaction before, you are likely to have another bad reaction. I'm sorry you went through that. > Yes it's 80% effective at eliminating _hospitalization_ but vaccinated people…

Is this thread being brigaded by antivaxxers? Seeing so many asinine comments claiming vaccines were useless…

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Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Why is there much difference between getting a booster every 6 months rather than every 12-24 months? Compared to lockdowns or even just mask mandates, both booster schedules seem like a pretty minor inconvenience given the pandemic-halting benefits.

I'd be glad to take boosters on any schedule, if only for said boosters we were using the mRNA advantage of short lead time and quick iteration to target the ACTUAL strain, not the one from 2 years ago...

Trials found boosting with the original vaccines was effective for delta. Omicron vaccines are being tested.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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I kind of regret even mentioning the effects of COVID in my original comment as I figured there would be a reply like yours and you're not wrong! But it wasn't the main point I was trying to make. My main point is that everyone just seems to have moved on from under 5s. We've adopted a stance of "vaxxed and done" for adults and older children and paid no attention to the vax trials for under 5s taking forever. It's b…

Going further, we've moved on from the un-vaccinated in general. My problem is that even though I live in a bubble with 100% vaccination rate among my relatives and friends (most of our kids are older), I can't quite make peace with just letting the un-vax'd kill one another off. And there seems to be no middle ground.

This is bizarre. You really think the un-vaccinated will “kill one another off”?

Most likely they’ll get the disease, completely recover and move on.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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And we don't know the long term psychological effects of wearing masks and social distancing. Those may be substantial as well, especially if it goes on for more than 2 years. Long term COVID is known to exist, long term effects of vaccination are not and there is no reason to think they are likely. (me: vaxxed, boosted, happy to boost some more. My 7 year old: vaxxed. My attitude: exactly as described as a "VAD" in…

> And we don't know the long term psychological effects of wearing masks and social distancing. It might turn you Japanese or Finnish. Americans spend all their lives socially distanced anyway - it's called driving.

Pretty sure my kid doesn't spend her life driving.

Regardless, what a weird, dismissive comment.

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