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YouTube is banning anti-vaccine activists and blocking all anti-vaccine content

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Post by boltzmann_brain »

NotSammyHagar wrote: post #632
ohdannyboy wrote: post #290

I was hesitant for a while and the massive censorship was part of it. I got vaccinated in May and have convinced others to get the shot since the side effects, while existent, appear to be minor compared to the reduction in harmful symptoms. Talking to my doctor is what did it for me. He cleared up most of my concerns and pressed me that my remaining concerns were too nebulous to be useful. If he just said "shut up a…

I'm glad you got vaccinated. But... Can you expand on why you were hesitant because of censorship? Because if there were lots of serious problems with the vaccine, they'd be covered in a second on fox news. Meanwhile, a lot of people are hugely influenced by false stories on social media, it's just a fact, with recent examples being things like ivermectin and the 2016 presidential election conspiracies, and don't for…

> Since covid is so deadly if you get it

Please. Median age above life expectancy. (At least where I live). Unless this is a board for 70 year or older seniors, this is utter bullshit.

Re: YouTube is banning anti-vaccine activists and blocking all anti-vaccine content

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Post by b7bfcdeaab33 »

Mike Adams: "So the spike protein is a toxic nano-particle... and that protein itself causes vascular damage"

Judy Mikovits: "Yes, that is the disease. The envelope alone [the spike protein] causes the disease. And we've known that since 1980.“

https://www.bitchute.com/video/EXYCFOQBtsVF/ (minute 08:30)

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Post by judahmeek »

xkbarkar wrote: post #594

> Months ago he was insisting that the people who had contracted COVID-19 and who had antibodies in their system may not need the vaccine. Now, we have a number of studies coming out to support that. But months ago that was "anti-vax" (employing the slanderous use of the term). I live in Iceland. Recovery from cov-sars-2 infection is considered as valid as a vaccine here. The same goes for Norway and ( to the best of…

> I can still very much catch cov-sars-2 and still very much infect and kill another fully vaccinated vulnerable human being.

You just admitted that vaccinations decreased hospitalizations, which means that vaccinations decreased the severity of infections, which means that vaccinations decreased the chances of someone who is vaccinated from dying after getting infected

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Post by m0zg »

jackson1442 wrote: post #792
ohdannyboy wrote: post #290

I was hesitant for a while and the massive censorship was part of it. I got vaccinated in May and have convinced others to get the shot since the side effects, while existent, appear to be minor compared to the reduction in harmful symptoms. Talking to my doctor is what did it for me. He cleared up most of my concerns and pressed me that my remaining concerns were too nebulous to be useful. If he just said "shut up a…

> She believed that if the vaccine was actually as great as they're saying they'd be able to make more objective goalposts and win arguments instead of stopping them because the other side is too stupid to make their own decisions. The problem I see here is that the (I hesitate to call it this) anti-vax "side" has been shifting goalposts since day n-1. If you've ever talked to someone who's shifted goalposts you'll s…

Before Jan 20 the democrats too were the "anti-vax" side. Do you want me to dig up videos of Joe and Kamala telling everyone they'd be insane to take the "rushed" vaccine? I don't think such overt politicization of this issue is helping with "hesitancy". And neither does the incessant lying about "stopping covid". Vaccine is not going to stop covid. It'll just make people 10x less likely to die once they get it. Notice the choice of the word - we'll all get it eventually. This is a less "satisfying" message, but I'd argue it's a more persuasive one, simply because it's true.

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Post by cheeze »

b7bfcdeaab33 wrote: post #912

Mike Adams: "So the spike protein is a toxic nano-particle... and that protein itself causes vascular damage" Judy Mikovits: "Yes, that is the disease. The envelope alone [the spike protein] causes the disease. And we've known that since 1980.“ https://www.bitchute.com/video/EXYCFOQBtsVF/ (minute 08:30)

This video is blatant anti vax BS. Watch the first 30 seconds and that's beyond obvious.

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Post by civilized »

I saw someone post an antivax video in the comments about the toxicity of the spike protein the mRNA vaccine causes the body to manufacture.

If you have such concerns, read this: https://health-desk.org/articles/what-do-we-know-about-the-t...

The vaccine is injected into muscle and causes a localized immune reaction. The protein doesn't really escape the muscle. So it might damage some muscle cells and capillaries, but those are stressed all the time anyway and will regenerate.

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Post by mostertoaster »

People keep arguing about the facts about side effects and long covid and death rates and hospital capacity. One side shows some facts in their favor and another “better” facts in another favor. This is pointless. If covid killed 10% or .00000001 of the population, censoring things like this is a terrible precedent.

Just as china has “private companies” do their censoring this is no different.

Just because the “facts” are very strong in favor of vaccination, and a majority of people are likely pro vax, this is a dangerous road.

Effectively the message, the story told about those facts is being dictated from government guidelines. You do not know what future stories will be forced to be believed in the future regardless of the “facts”.

Seriously just try and imagine a society who believes something you’re opposed too, where the facts don’t matter to you, and having it happen. Do you think you will never be on the other side?

This power will one day be wielded by those who you are adamantly opposed to.

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Post by _moof »

deadpannini wrote: post #796
ookblah wrote: post #50

Someone want to throw out there a better way to combat disinformation than just armchair criticizing their decision? I almost feel like people are siding with the anti-vaxxers out of "principle". Just a no win situation. It's too easy for bad characters to screw up an entire system with little effort (look at trolls, spammers, etc). Either you moderate everyone and slippery slope down into censorship where the tools…

"Someone want to throw out there a better way to combat disinformation than just armchair criticizing their decision?" Yes. Combat disinformation by refuting it. This requires credibility, and censorship is one of the fastest ways to burn that down.

> Combat disinformation by refuting it.

Got any ideas that might actually have a non-zero chance of working?

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Post by _moof »

mariodiana wrote: post #73
ookblah wrote: post #50

Someone want to throw out there a better way to combat disinformation than just armchair criticizing their decision? I almost feel like people are siding with the anti-vaxxers out of "principle". Just a no win situation. It's too easy for bad characters to screw up an entire system with little effort (look at trolls, spammers, etc). Either you moderate everyone and slippery slope down into censorship where the tools…

"Misinformation" should not be combatted by anything other than better, more persuasive information.

People are not little machines that accept information as input, apply impartial rules of logic, and then spit out a correct answer. People are social-emotional animals with a carefully guarded sense of self, a basic need to belong, and all kinds of nervous system structures that, when activated, prevent rational thought.

This is not as simple as putting more information out there.

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