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Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform

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Re: Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform

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"But in Haskell pure functions are guaranteed to have same result with same input." I'm pretty sure that same law applies to a pure function in any language, not just Haskell. #shitthatHNsays

What "pure" means varies from language to language.

It really does not.

Re: Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform

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> Visual Studio needs the Resharper plugin by IntelliJ, to be able to call it a modern IDE You didn't say what Resharper does, and why other IDE's need it to be called modern . Is this an advert for Resharper? > like Scala, Python, Ruby, Javascript, PHP, Clojure and Groovy You listed one middling language among 6 top languages. Is this another advert, trying to promote a language by associating it with the oft used o…

> You didn't say what Resharper does, and why other IDE's need it to be called modern. Is this an advert for Resharper? It's clear what he meant for everyone who hasn't been living under the rock for the last 10 years. Don't blame him if you are clueless. > You listed one middling language among 6 top languages. Is this another advert, trying to promote a language by associating it with the oft used ones? Heh? It's a…

> IntelliJ IDEA runs everywhere and is a lot smarter than Visual Studio out of the box. The community edition is not only free of charge, but open-source as well.

Perhaps he meant "automated code refactoring" but used a brand name instead. I've never knowingly used Resharper whenever I've used IDEA community edn, but perhaps it's been running anonymously beneath the surface. That's why I asked what it was. His whole comment read like an advert for brands like IDEA, Resharper, and Groovy so that's why I questioned it.

Re: Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform

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It matters for the language designers, how much people they want to make angry for breaking their code. Scala's smaller user base means there are a lot of less people to get mad.

And you still haven't explained how Scala has a similar problem.

Scala keeps features for imperative and functional programming, which is one category too many, because they solve the same problem just different. Thats how Scala is supposed to work. Its impossible to remove an approach.

Re: Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform

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Great news, but something else drew my attention: the related stories. I got, among others: "Microsoft Announces Windows 2000 Certification For Microsoft Certified Systems Engineers" "Microsoft and Samsung Reveal Windows Powered Pocket PC For GSM/GPRS Networks" "Microsoft Office 97 Family of Applications Honored With Industry Awards" "Microsoft Invests in General Magic" "Microsoft Internet Explorer 3.0 Beta Download…

"Microsoft and Samsung Reveal Windows Powered Pocket PC For GSM/GPRS Networks" .. in 2003, four years before the iPhone launch. I wonder how that one got messed up? Carrier brokenware? Inadequate hardware?

Windows Mobile was so so soooooo bad.

Re: Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform

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Announcing occurs at vaporware stage. Realeasing is what makes it real. So do your math again.

Do your math again. We were given Tech Preview CDs at the time that contained a preview versions of .NET. So yes, we were able to write and experiment with C# and VB.Net code back then. I was actively looking for a cross-platform replacement for Perl at the time and while C#/.NET was exciting it was also a huge disappointment because it was yet another "runs on Windows only" Microsoft technology. I don't see how you…

Tech Preview CDs or demo is not releasing. It is a totally different thing. But oh well.

Re: Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform

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> Absolutely. There is zero regard for open source from Microsoft here. What would it take for you to say "gosh, now Microsoft has regard for open source!" ? If the answer is "nothing, I'd never say that ever" then you don't have an opinion, you have a fixed religious belief. And how does your threshold for Microsoft differ from the same for Apple. Google, Facebook et al?

When its history shows otherwise.

What specifically has to be in the history? What yes-or-no test, what action that hasn't already happened?

Major projects open-sourced on GitHub under MIT licence? Check. Runs Linux, java and PHP in the Azure data centres? check.

Re: Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform

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When its history shows otherwise.

What specifically has to be in the history? What yes-or-no test, what action that hasn't already happened? Major projects open-sourced on GitHub under MIT licence? Check. Runs Linux, java and PHP in the Azure data centres? check.

It sounds like you have a fixed religious belief instead of an opinion. Every day must be infuriating for you! You're too much of a fanboy to consider that Microsoft isn't your friend, or that other people have opinions counter to yours. But I've already put too much food beneath this particular bridge of yours.

Re: Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform

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I'd take a bit of copy-paste over premature generalisation any day.

I'd take a premature generalisation over a false dichotomy.

So if its not a dichotomy, what are the other options? If you want to avoid copy/paste, you have to use generalisation techniques.

Re: Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform

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What specifically has to be in the history? What yes-or-no test, what action that hasn't already happened? Major projects open-sourced on GitHub under MIT licence? Check. Runs Linux, java and PHP in the Azure data centres? check.

It sounds like you have a fixed religious belief instead of an opinion. Every day must be infuriating for you! You're too much of a fanboy to consider that Microsoft isn't your friend, or that other people have opinions counter to yours. But I've already put too much food beneath this particular bridge of yours.

Hahaha. Projecting much?

Microsoft is a company, like many others. Some divisions do things that are friendly and benefit me, sometimes, because they want to sell things. That's realistic.

I'm well aware that onions differ, which is why I ask about people’s reasons for holding those opinions, so that I can understand them. Of course, it's equally likely that people will resort to bluster and accusations instead of answers when they really don't have reasons, rather than examine themselves.

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