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Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

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Post by TiredOfLife »

echelon wrote: post #719
vaylian wrote: post #708

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> are all posting their updates on X - because, like the users, they have no choice, because no alternative exists. The fediverse is a viable alternative. But most non-tech people don't know about it.

> The fediverse is a viable alternative Bluesky attracted socialist progressives, furries, and kink-positive folks early on. I'm not making any value statements, and there's nothing wrong with the userbase, but this is what dominates the feed for new users. A lot of people are turned off by that when they see it as their first experience with the platform. Or they're actively turned away upon interaction. That's not…

> socialist progressives

socialists yes. progressive ones not even close.

Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

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Post by 0xblinq »

matesz wrote: post #891

Ex-x account holder here. Even if the world is going to fall and details about this even will be accessible exclusively behind X login wall, I am not setting up the account there again, NO WAY. I wholeheartedly recommend you do the same - remove your account and forget about it. Almost certainly you won't miss it, as I didn't miss it. And there is a big chance you will get a big sight of relief, as I did. If you real…

I do want to remove my account there.

But when I was doing it, I got a big warning that anyone could come up and register that handle for themselves. So I instead ended up just deleting every post, my personal details, and left the account alone (not using it anymore).

I know they do this intentionally (it's bad intentions all over the place on social networks nowadays, except HN, of course).

I'm terrified of somebody else just creating the account with the same handle I used to have, and impersonate me across old friends and contacts.

What do you suggest?

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Post by rbwkap »

matesz wrote: post #891

Ex-x account holder here. Even if the world is going to fall and details about this even will be accessible exclusively behind X login wall, I am not setting up the account there again, NO WAY. I wholeheartedly recommend you do the same - remove your account and forget about it. Almost certainly you won't miss it, as I didn't miss it. And there is a big chance you will get a big sight of relief, as I did. If you real…

Fortunately it is almost impossible to set up a new account. The sign-up process is totally broken, links in the docs are stale and everything looks vibe coded. And they want a phone number and possibly an ID.

Nitter is good software, I have no idea how Twitter users put up with this garbage fire.

Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

#905

Post by alpineman »

garo-pro wrote: post #900

It's quite unfortunate, a lot of people or organisations I am interested in - AI for example - only post on X, and perhaps it's only a matter of time until services like bird.makeup also get taken down. Also, accessibility wise it's sad too, X's web interface is not the best out there and without login you cannot do really much.

Is it so hard for them to crosspost automatically to all platforms? I always wonder why they don't post elsewhere in this day and age

Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

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Post by TiredOfLife »

hsuduebc2 wrote: post #823
delegate wrote: post #701

Why have we let X (et al) have total control over the content posted by the users ? Why do the users agree to the limits imposed by them and let the platform decide who gets to see the content they posted ? Because they're offering the infrastructure. The tech for such a network is now within reach of many, but these apps are heavily dominated by network effects and that makes it impossible for competing apps to take…

I do not use this garbage product made only to make your day miserable because it's ragebaiting algorithm. It's not essentiall by any means, it's only designed so you feel that way.

What algorithm? Im my 19 years of using twitter there has always been a following feed with posts only by the people i follow.

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Post by embedding-shape »

maelito wrote: post #902

Just switch to Bsky.app or mu.social (european version, same global network).

I'm well aware of what bsky.app is, and for others, there is a "Help" link at least, except it's not super clear. But on mu.social, how can I learn about what it actually is? It's missing a "What is mu.social?" link or something. Ironically, they have a "Donate" link/button, but no "About".

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Post by nicole_express »

My hope is that this reduces the relevancy of Twitter; a lot of people who consider it a moral reason not use X.com proper end up still using Nitter/Xcancel to keep an eye on discussions, which has helped reduce the reason to leave the site.

But in reality I suspect that group isn't actually large enough to have much impact, especially since some will just give in and register on the Everything App.

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Post by OhMeadhbh »

I stopped virtually all social media (except commenting on YouTube videos and telling people they're wrong in HN comments) years ago. No twitter, no mastadon, no bsky, no facebook. I keep hearing myspace is going to re-launch and I would consider getting an account there for the purposes of irony.

But... instead of tweeting for an hour a day, I spend that hour reading long form dead tree format texts. I'm not saying this is what you should do, just offering it as an observation that it is an option.

Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

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Post by OhMeadhbh »

nicole_express wrote: post #908

My hope is that this reduces the relevancy of Twitter; a lot of people who consider it a moral reason not use X.com proper end up still using Nitter/Xcancel to keep an eye on discussions, which has helped reduce the reason to leave the site. But in reality I suspect that group isn't actually large enough to have much impact, especially since some will just give in and register on the Everything App.

I was a twitter beta tester in 2005 when it was a SMS to intarwebs gateway. IMHO, it stopped being relevant sometime around 2008.
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