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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by zarzavat »

antirez wrote: post #872

It is very hard to evaluate Apple as a single entity. Certain branches of the company did great in the latest 10 years: the chips division being the most obvious one but in general hardware did well. Software received a lot less love, and in general deteriorated, but the really terrible performance was the products division. Then there is the horror story of Apple software stores and services.

Apple is held to a different standard. Tahoe is bad because it's ugly and has inconsistent corner radii. Meanwhile Windows has multiple critical issues e.g. Windows update induced instability.

Apple's hardware and silicon divisions are considered good not because they're competitive, but because they're uncompetitive. They keep cranking out products that far surpass their competitors. Apple is reduced to announcing the fastest CPU core in the world in a press release spec bump, every year.

Even if Tahoe is a regression from the high bar Apple set with Sequoia, it's still the best OS for regular people (sorry Linux but you know it's true). Apple's software is bad because it's merely best-in-class and not light years ahead.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by GeekyBear »

71bw wrote: post #654
btown wrote: post #72

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Ternus recently gave an interview where he said this about the initial flop of Apple Maps: > “When we started out with maps, it was an ambitious undertaking. It was bumpy,” said Ternus. “But the team had just been over the years just pushing and pushing and pushing. And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. If you have the vision and you're persistent and you keep working at it, you can take something you know that…

>And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. Perhaps that is the case in the US, but in Poland, I haven't had a single app guide me into the literal bushes as many times as Apple Maps does. The straw that broke the camel's back was when, I shit you not, the navigation aspect literally expected me to drive through a lake.

It is the case in regions where Apple gathers their own map data from scratch, instead of relying on data licensed from TomTom and others.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by kkarakk »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #718
btown wrote: post #72

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Ternus recently gave an interview where he said this about the initial flop of Apple Maps: > “When we started out with maps, it was an ambitious undertaking. It was bumpy,” said Ternus. “But the team had just been over the years just pushing and pushing and pushing. And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. If you have the vision and you're persistent and you keep working at it, you can take something you know that…

Apple Maps is definitely not amazing in India. All it's good for is "Find My." Only Google is accurate and has good traffic data.

Apple software is unusable in india, no one uses it coz it has terrible data and thus the data never gets changed coz no one uses it. i have gotten wrong timings for gyms, wrong routes, it won't detect my home address from my contacts etc etc always find it funny when americans say "it's good now", no brother they fixed all the glitches in states it's still launch apple maps trash in india

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by opinion_giver »

71bw wrote: post #654
btown wrote: post #72

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Ternus recently gave an interview where he said this about the initial flop of Apple Maps: > “When we started out with maps, it was an ambitious undertaking. It was bumpy,” said Ternus. “But the team had just been over the years just pushing and pushing and pushing. And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. If you have the vision and you're persistent and you keep working at it, you can take something you know that…

>And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. Perhaps that is the case in the US, but in Poland, I haven't had a single app guide me into the literal bushes as many times as Apple Maps does. The straw that broke the camel's back was when, I shit you not, the navigation aspect literally expected me to drive through a lake.

if you want to be EU-patriotic, you can try the Czech app Mapy.com. it's based on OSM data as well and at least for hiking in Europe it's the best

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by goosejuice »

theodric wrote: post #653
bushbaba wrote: post #641

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I hated liquid glass at first, but now i've come to appreciate it. It grows on you

So does fungus. I'd prefer to avoid both.

I dunno, I think fungus is pretty great. Cheese, salumi, beer, soy sauce, miso, kimchi, chocolate. Sounds like a boring life:)

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by walthamstow »

rdbl27 wrote: post #899
danielrhodes wrote: post #79

I think Tim Cook took Steve Job's vision and really took it to the moon. If you think about the last 15 years, Apple has really become the biggest possible version of itself without losing its values. Tech in general has changed quite a bit though. I don't know how Steve Jobs would have reacted to AI, and I don't know where tech itself would be if Jobs were still around. But I do think the next evolution is due and y…

Cook has done more or less the opposite of what Jobs did. Jobs was all about bold innovation, hugely risky bets on gamechanging products. Cook is a timid logistics optimizer, and he's good at that. We reliably get an iPhone with slightly more RAM, slightly faster CPU on schedule every year. No category changing products. Innovation has stopped -- after Jobs, there is only minor incremental improvement

I don't own one, but the Apple Watch did very much change the category, defined it even. Vision Pro was a innovative bet, maybe not a great one. Apple Silicon completely changed the game.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by trueno »

3form wrote: post #728
schnebbau wrote: post #700

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Well, that certainly would be one way to wipe billions from their share price overnight. The only way Linux on Mac will become a reality is if it's legislated.

Why would it? Shareholders of the major stocks are generally vibes-based, and I'm sure that if Apple undertook that, they would find a way to build hype around it.

It would literally sell more Mac devices I'm not sure what the argument is that OP is making

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by hedora »

stetrain wrote: post #486
hedora wrote: post #229

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If they are going to tap a HW guy as CEO, the next big thing should be giving exec comp and positions to every member of the Asahi Linux team, and putting them in charge of SW at Apple.

Official support for alternative OSes would be nice, but no reason to throw everything out to make that happen.

I wasn’t arguing everything be thrown out, just that a competent group be put in charge, and also that they open the HW up so there is competition on the SW side.

If you put third party support under macos leadership or next to it on the org chart, it’d be systematically sabotaged to death. That org hasn’t delivered anything useful in a decade (“useful” == “a user might notice and care”), so there’s no evidence current leadership could ship leadshot from a wet paper bag, even if they wanted to.

Also, they’d nearly double their laptop share overnight if they did this, and it’d cost them 10-20 FTEs.

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