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Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

#901

I can't figure out what was even USA goal in this war ? they have said everything and it's contrary, so there is no way to know if they won or if they lost. I guess it's a smart move. But on the other hand, Iran still has enriched uranium, nuclear facilities and now they even have put in the agreement a recognition of Iran's right to seek nuclear technology. Iran missiles.. they still shoot them and there is nothing…

Unsurprising as America is currently run by a bunch of second rate TV presenters

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

#902

I can't figure out what was even USA goal in this war ? they have said everything and it's contrary, so there is no way to know if they won or if they lost. I guess it's a smart move. But on the other hand, Iran still has enriched uranium, nuclear facilities and now they even have put in the agreement a recognition of Iran's right to seek nuclear technology. Iran missiles.. they still shoot them and there is nothing…

> But on the other hand,

> Iran still has enriched uranium, nuclear facilities and now they even have put in the agreement a recognition of Iran's right to seek nuclear technology.

You can figure out the goal. What you can't figure out is a goal that actually had a snowball's chance in an oil fire of being achieved.

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#903

The terrorism recruitement numbers are gonna go through the roof in the next few years based on this alone.

Is it terrorism? radicalization seems like a pretty natural human response when your family/home/community gets indiscriminately obliterated by missiles from the sky.

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#904

TACO fortunately. Let's hope this is resolved. Question: what are Trump next plans, who is he going to harass now? he seems to go crescendo in the craziness. Maybe he'll calm down a bit before the mid-terms though.

It would seem all arrows are pointing at Cuba, which I'm sure won't put up quite as much of a fight.

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It's interesting how the hackernews-biased views of the war outcomes don't align with how Iranians themselves see that. For instance you can translate from persian the following geopolitical view which will shed a totally different light on the situation to whoever depends solely on hn comments https://x.com/i/status/2041693098833518976

Thanks for sharing perspectives from actual Iranians.

Hey there, semi related to your comment above, I read your point that "Sad that my comment got flagged, this is a major problem with hacker news - censorship of comments that prevent people from hearing all perspectives" and agree completely. I've been flagged and shadowbanned for mentioning Iryna Zarutska and in general, anything that people would rather silence than address with words and reason. I'd love to talk more about this. It's sad because most of the people here regard themselves highly but this doesn't match the experience of "this opinion is counter mine therefore it must vanish and I can go on believing no one disagrees with me"

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Israel seems likely to do anything they can to start things up again.

They will try for a last minute "false flag" to bait the US to think that Iran broke the ceasefire first as always. To Downvoters: You do understand that it was Israel that attacked first right? They are not happy with this provisional ceasefire agreement.

The Israelis are playing this like a strategy game and using ancient tactics. Therefore, I predict they will try to get all US military-aged men into Iran before they nuke it. Then, they will unleash all of the drones they have hidden all across the US.

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What are you trying to say? Stop justifying Israel's actions as inevitable. They are not.

I am not justifying them as inevitable. I am justifying them as beneficial for us, even if the means they employ are morally questionable at times (even if they happen to be that way for the lack of choices).

I support Israel because it is a no-brainer who to support between them and so-called "Palestine" (which in practice means Hamas), and there is no practical way to be neutral because Hamas will never accept existence of Israel and thorough genocide of Israelis is only acceptable option for them.

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#909

I can't figure out what was even USA goal in this war ? they have said everything and it's contrary, so there is no way to know if they won or if they lost. I guess it's a smart move. But on the other hand, Iran still has enriched uranium, nuclear facilities and now they even have put in the agreement a recognition of Iran's right to seek nuclear technology. Iran missiles.. they still shoot them and there is nothing…

I thought it was to create "Greater Israel"

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

#910
The ceasefire is over.

Iran launched three waves of ballistic missiles at Israel after the ceasefire was announced; the first wave happened about an hour after the ceasefire announcement, then another 5 hours after, then another 8 hours after.

Iran also launched waves of drones at UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, and Saudi Arabia within the first few hours of the ceasefire, and they've continued more over the next 12 hours. Multiple major energy facilities were struck, including desalination plants and oil facilities. Saudi Arabia’s East-West oil pipeline was hit. In Kuwait, three power stations a water desalination plants were severely damaged following drone attacks.

Israel announced the ceasefire does not apply to Lebanon, and launched a massive wave of airstrikes on Lebanon about an hour ago. Iran said this is a ceasefire violation, and resumed launching drones and missiles.

This ceasefire is done, nobody wants to stop fighting, the war will be back to usual in the next few days.

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