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Our commitment to Windows quality

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Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by xandrius »

Gud wrote: post #835
suby wrote: post #814

Quality is not the issue. We should be more specific - Microsoft has been consciously employing dark patterns that they know will be harmful to users but they do not care because their incentives are misaligned. Employees of Microsoft have surely had meetings scheming of ways to degrade user experience for some internal metric they are trying to hit. A decade+ of conscious, willful decisions which negatively impact u…

Why will you not “forgive them”? That is a logical consequence of using a Microsoft operating system.

It is not and let's not be silly now.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by vendiddy »

I've come to expect that, every time I update and OS or app to a newer version, it's going to be slower and more bloated.

Why can't it be the opposite? Why can't I expect an update to run faster than the previous version?

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by delecti »

canucker2016 wrote: post #900
aeternum wrote: post #527

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Much of big tech became Product leaders running amok. Somehow It shifted from users know best to "Product" knows best. I think this all stemmed everyone wanting to be Apple except no one actually achieved it and now we have 3 different versions of the audio control panel in Windows, the start button is somehow in the middle of the screen, and windows search no longer searches your PC. Deleting "Product" might save wi…

> ... the start button is somehow in the middle of the screen ... If you take a look at the size of widescreen monitors, you can kinda guess why someone decided to move the start button/menu to the middle of the screen. I know Samsung and Dell have ginmorous 49 inch monitors. Start menu that pops up from the lower left corner of the monitor would be a bad UX - the user might not even notice that a menu had popped up…

You used to be able to move the taskbar to any side of the screen. IMO the more sensible move for widescreen monitors is to move it to the side so it takes up less screen real estate. Windows 11 removed the ability to move the taskbar like that; it's stuck on the bottom (unless you seek out 3rd party software solutions).

Also it should be noted that (at least as recently as September, haven't used 11 since) you could move the start button back to the left side.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by nrclark »

If Windows wants to commit to quality and user experience, they can do it by moving closer to the experience that made a generation fall in love with it.

  - Turn Notepad back into a text editor.
  - Remove ads from your operating system. Yes it feels like a license to print money, but it makes your users hate your product. 
  - Stop charging money for Freecell and Minesweeper.
  - Converge your three control panels back into one. The classic control panel was not broken.
  - Drop the mandatory Microsoft User accounts. Nobody wants this except your bean counters.
When 3 out of these 5 happen, I'll believe that Microsoft is actually recommitting to their users.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by littlestymaar »

aeternum wrote: post #527
PaulKeeble wrote: post #469

Microsoft has spent over a decade swimming against their users interests at this point and during that time frame Linux has been improving its desktop and improving kernel performance. We are now at the point where Linux emulating Window's entire API space for games with worse drivers is dangerously close on performance with none of the privacy invasion and anti user features. Its pretty late in the game for them to…

Much of big tech became Product leaders running amok. Somehow It shifted from users know best to "Product" knows best. I think this all stemmed everyone wanting to be Apple except no one actually achieved it and now we have 3 different versions of the audio control panel in Windows, the start button is somehow in the middle of the screen, and windows search no longer searches your PC. Deleting "Product" might save wi…

> I think this all stemmed everyone wanting to be Apple except no one actually achieved it

Given the repeating pattern of Apple shipping a hated operating system update in recent year, it feels like it's more “everybody wants to be Steve Jobs and no one actually achieves it including Apple”.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by jlarocco »

999900000999 wrote: post #821
frm88 wrote: post #809

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When did you ckeck last? They are everywhere, even Bestbuy sells them: https://noai.duckduckgo.com/?kax=-1&q=pre-installed+Linux+PC...

Best Buy has a marketplace of 3rd party sellers. I guess you might be able to order one or something? I can not walk into my local best buy and get a computer running Linux. It's a moot point anyway, since you'll usually have to pay more for a Linux laptop vs buying a Windows one and installing it yourself.

> It's a moot point anyway, since you'll usually have to pay more for a Linux laptop vs buying a Windows one and installing it yourself.

That's silly. In general, people don't mind paying more for a product they perceive as better. Just look at Apple.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by samrus »

Gud wrote: post #835
suby wrote: post #814

Quality is not the issue. We should be more specific - Microsoft has been consciously employing dark patterns that they know will be harmful to users but they do not care because their incentives are misaligned. Employees of Microsoft have surely had meetings scheming of ways to degrade user experience for some internal metric they are trying to hit. A decade+ of conscious, willful decisions which negatively impact u…

Why will you not “forgive them”? That is a logical consequence of using a Microsoft operating system.

I dont want to suffer the consequences of using a microsoft operating system. Id rather use linux or even mac

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by xnx »

deng wrote: post #225

If you want to know how serious to take this, just look at this gem: > Enhancing Search: [...] Clearer and more trustworthy results, with results from content on your device easy to understand and clearly distinct from web results So yeah, you still get web results in your search bar, a feature absolutely zero people want and which is just there to fake Bing success, just with a little divider now next to the applica…

It's crazy when the option to integrate Everything (https://www.voidtools.com/support/everything/) is right there.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by justin66 »

Nothing along the lines of just turning off AI and invasive telemetry. All that is available to users who have an entire corporate staff constantly managing their group policy settings, but doesn't seem available to the average schmoe.

Never mind just using the computer without a Microsoft account.

> Faster and more dependable File Explorer

I wonder how many PhDs that will take.

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