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TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by RealityVoid »

latency-guy2 wrote: post #884
throwaway5752 wrote: post #684

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If someone demonstrates they are liars, there is a reasonable default reaction. Most people can ignore what they say, because liars made the conscious decision not to be credible. It is an incredible time-saving productivity hack to disregard what habitual liars say.

This is a reaction to reputation, which is sometimes reasonable. But reasonable people also confirm their suspicions with evidence regardless of the situation. Go ahead and save your time, but remember your reputation is at risk as well, and I would consider you unreasonable.

Sadly, there are not enough minutes in a day to verify all information thrown at me. So taking shortcuts feels necessary to me. Sure, this should be contingent on new information and developments.

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

parthdesai wrote: post #503
cheeseomlit wrote: post #497

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>including facts

> deliberate, systematic manipulation of information And, what are we doing with those facts? We're manipulating them lol

That can be part of it, but usually it's not necessary - certain facts, or certain aspects of facts (e.g. exclude some context) can just get exaggerated to have the desired effect on a larger population.

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Post by urmackchually2 »

kurthr wrote: post #841
elektronika wrote: post #732

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Radio Free Asia is USA funded propaganda.

But since that's all been defunded by DOGE then by your own argument, it doesn't count any more. Ignoring history is a good way to repeat it, just because it didn't happen this year. Do you remember the last Vietnam War? Oh no, not the one you're thinking of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War Several hundred thousand Chinese troops invaded Vietnam with 500 tanks in 1979.

In response to Vietnam invading Cambodia... Yeah...

That's not exactly imperialist aggression is it?

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

hungryhobo wrote: post #814
ikrenji wrote: post #511

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I mean China is not exactly a poster child for a benevolent hegemon - tibet / taiwan / uyghurs to name a few

all 3 places you mentioned have been integrated into china longer than the us has been a country

Are you trying to say that excuses the human rights violations happening there?

Besides, you're comparing it with the US which is also known for its human rights violations ever since the continent was discovered.

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

WheatMillington wrote: post #650
dataviz1000 wrote: post #253

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It isn't so much as the rest of the world having easy access. It is what the Chinese want the rest of the world to see. If you are in a South American country using a residential IP in new incognito session, doom scroll, after the initial disturbing content, you will start to notice videos of the United States government physically attacking people born in the country of the residential IP address. The TikTok algorit…

I see people saying this a lot, but I've also seen videos demonstrating that you can easily post and search for Tiananmen Square content. I don't use Tiktok myself but it seems like this is basically untrue.

This will likely depend on the country, I presume it wouldn't work in China.

But this isn't new either, western services operating abroad will often comply with local laws, which includes country or region specific laws on acceptable content. Google pulled out of China for a good while because they didn't want to, but they eventually cracked and complied with their content laws. Of course, by then the competition was dominant already.

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

tomhow wrote: post #893
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #870

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[flagged]

Please don't comment like this here. HN is for curious conversation, not this kind belligerence. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Is the issue that I said he knew it was bullshit? Or is there a substantial issue with what the Twitter files were?

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Post by watwut »

infecto wrote: post #35
nomilk wrote: post #7

I hope for the good of mankind, all sides of politics unite against deplatforming and oppressing opposing viewpoints. It's sad that certain topics (anti-ICE, Epstein) neutered on a social media platform, but this went on for years when the politics were reversed. Let everyone have their say, I say.

I am not sure why this was flagged but I don’t think it’s wrong. I am not sure if it’s a uniquely American thing but the internet has caused an unfortunate case of brigading for almost anything. I like to think I sit fairly middle in a lot of American topics I lean left on some items, taxes, healthcare, free school lunches and right on others but I remember how easy it was a number of years ago to be labeled a racist…

> You really cannot have an opinion about much these days without someone labeling you something unfavorably. It’s unfortunate.

That is free speech. And the violence you see is direct consequence of a culture that tuts tuts "this is rude" when someone says "these right wing people are fascists" rather then look at what those right wing people openly talk about.

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Post by UltraSane »

urmackchually2 wrote: post #903
kurthr wrote: post #841

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But since that's all been defunded by DOGE then by your own argument, it doesn't count any more. Ignoring history is a good way to repeat it, just because it didn't happen this year. Do you remember the last Vietnam War? Oh no, not the one you're thinking of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War Several hundred thousand Chinese troops invaded Vietnam with 500 tanks in 1979.

In response to Vietnam invading Cambodia... Yeah... That's not exactly imperialist aggression is it?

Vietnam invaded Cambodia in December 1978 primarily to stop relentless border incursions, attacks on villages, and massacres of Vietnamese civilians by the Khmer Rouge regime. This led to the end of Khmer Rouge, which was a VERY GOOD THING. China was HELPING the Khmer Rouge, so yes, it actually was rather "imperialist aggressiony". I haven't encountered a Khmer Rouge apologist in a long time.

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Post by dns_snek »

TheAlchemist wrote: post #799
I-M-S wrote: post #796

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One may genuinly debate the genocide, racism, imperialism etc. But I can guarantee you that the 'opressed working class' in the US had it 100 times better than the non opressed Eastern European one.

It's so lazy to resort to the false dichotomy of US vs USSR, it doesn't say anything except "It's not as bad as it could've been". Every country in the world can point a finger at someone who had it worse.

And besides, "One may genuinly debate the genocide, racism, imperialism etc" is an essential part of why the working class had a good quality of life in the decades following WW2, particularly white people.

It's easy to build up a good lifestyle when you exploit foreign countries for resources and outsource your labor to poor people across the world because you're not the one paying the bill. But how do you sustain that when those people start demanding the same quality of life that you have? You don't, as we're seeing now.

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Post by NoBeardMarch »

iugtmkbdfil834 wrote: post #525
nathan_compton wrote: post #493

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I don't think its any sort of "grand struggle" in any sense other than the human condition is a grand struggle for peace in a world which perhaps fundamentally encourages conflict, but it doesn't have to be a grand struggle to appreciate the fact that people are dying and being treated inhumanely. I really do think you're fundamental warning is spot on: people really should consider how power is going to be used agai…

This may be the source of disconnect. While it might seem like I am amused by suffering, this is explicitly not the case. I shudder at the thought that people would take my argument as meaning that. All I am saying is: things exist after their original purpose has been served ( or not served ). But those things continue to exist, because we, as a species, can't seem to help ourselves. That weird drive within us is wh…

Interesting discussion to read this between you and the other poster because it showcases an almost perfect example of the way disagreements almost always appear: There is some disconnect in a definition which was implied and not stated clearly, and one side thinks their intention to be clear while the other infers what they believe to be an obvious intent shown.

On a different webforum one or the other might become agitated and emotional, at which point it does not matter what the intent was, now it only matters to "be right". Great that it was just resolved cleanly.

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