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Re: Linux is good now

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Post by episode404 »

bigyabai wrote: post #845
episode404 wrote: post #795

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It seems HN has decided to bury their heads in the sand and pretend it’s already great.

I think you have decided to bury your head in the sand, if you think systemd is a dealbreaker for desktop use. Truth is, Linux has been fine for many people for a while now. I've used it for six years without needing to install Windows for anything. Steam Deck owners are putting in millions of hours playing the hot new Windows releases, do you think they are complaining about systemd on Reddit?

Please re-read the comment by mixxit. He mentioned systemd as just one example of why Linux isn’t there yet and no amount of gaslighting and pretending it ain’t so is going to change that.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by ciupicri »

z3t4 wrote: post #435
kentonv wrote: post #242

I switched all the machines at https://lanparty.house over to Linux a couple months ago. So far, we've experienced noticeably fewer problems on Linux compared to Windows. Stability and performance are better. I can't think of one game we tried that didn't work. And wow is it nice not to have all the ads and crapware in our faces anymore. (I'm aware that Battlefield series and League of Legends won't work due to draco…

I used multi seat in Linux with SystemD, i just threw in some old grapchics cards and sound cards in my gaming PC so that the children could play on separate monitors while I worked. Multi seat is very cool. When upgrading to a new gaming PC it was much cheaper to build 4 separate machines because cpu's and motherboards with enough pcie lanes are very expensive. GPU's still run at decent performance with half the pci…

I hate it so much that multiple video cards are needed and you can't just use the multiple outputs of a single video card.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by conor- »

user_7832 wrote: post #863
conor- wrote: post #811

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I share the same sentiment. I've had the same Arch install running since ~2016 and have been using Arch since about 2013 and the number of times I've needed to chroot from a live image is under 10 and were mostly related to systemd breaking things during an update which is pretty much entirely no longer an issue these days. Compared to Windows-land where nuking and reinstalling the entire OS is a routine maintenance…

I think this is a very interesting observation, because my experience has been fairly opposite. Disclaimer, I've grown up with windows. Yet I've never had to reinstall windows on any of my devices ever. I've never had things behave in unusual or unpredictable ways. Meanwhile, a highly suggested utility (on reddit, SE/SO, and even a few distro forums) for touchpad gestures borked my gnome setup. (Uninstalling it, as y…

I'm not sure where you get the idea that Linux doesn't have hibernate - there's both userspace systemd-hibernate bindings and also the kernel swsusp which both work equally well (although you may need to make sure you have a large enough swap partition for it to function)

Also the other issues you're describing do sound frustrating but I think it's a byproduct of an entirely different culture. Exposing user-configurable timeouts and you being made aware of it during troubleshooting is something that enables you to deeply understand your system and how it's configured. In Windows, even if there is defaults for things like that it likely is not exposed to the user or configurable at all. If the default settings are bad you're just stuck with it and you aren't expected or intended to modify anything to better suit your needs.

My experience with Arch is mostly due to having been a fairly proficient Linux user prior to switching over and being very comfortable reading the wiki or bbs and tinkering to find solutions to things. A lot of the prior experiences I had with Debian or other "friendly" distros kind of put me through the ringer too and I've found that having the rolling release with Arch fits my preferred workflow much better than something like Ubuntu or Debian or Fedora or the other "batteries included" distros.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by bloating8731 »

kentonv wrote: post #541
bloating8731 wrote: post #463

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Does this mean the GitHub repo linked with the scripts now include up to date linux versions? Last time I looked it was all windows specific, but I'd love to setup something similar with stations for (much lower power) versions.

Sorry, I haven't gotten around to updating it yet, although it basically works to follow the same instructions except replace Windows with Linux and skip all the workarounds for Windows-specific bugs.

Thanks for the heads up. I'll keep an eye out on the repo in case you get it there. It's an impressive setup.

Just so I understand correctly, are all the game machines segmented off so that the DHCP server only serves the game machines and doesn't interfere with the rest of the household? Or does it serve everything at once?

My thought process was to keep this game network segmented with a VLAN so that DHCP would be unaffected for the rest of my household.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by [deleted] »

Pxtl wrote: post #413
foresto wrote: post #381

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> Biggest hardware challenge I've faced is my Logitech mouse In case it helps: https://github.com/libratbag/piper

Sadly the project feels semi-abandoned. No new releases so I had to build it from source. Also the PR board seems to be ignored (one or two of those are mine - I tried to fix the misleading button labels).

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Re: Linux is good now

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Post by abrookewood »

jscyc wrote: post #434
abrookewood wrote: post #417

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Not that much. TO be honest, I have a few installed (Heroic Games Launcher for one), but the main one I wanted to avoid was Firefox - which is easily doable. It is annoying that we have yet another way of packaging apps - would have been better if they just supported Flatpack

Do you ever find it "updated" to the snap version? I have Ubuntu on my work laptop and every so often after an update Firefox will suddenly be the snap version and I'll have to reinstall it.

No, hasn't happened so far.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by abrookewood »

zerocrates wrote: post #492
jscyc wrote: post #434

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Do you ever find it "updated" to the snap version? I have Ubuntu on my work laptop and every so often after an update Firefox will suddenly be the snap version and I'll have to reinstall it.

As someone else says, for Firefox (and Thunderbird) I just uninstalled the package manager version entirely and dropped Mozilla's regular distro-agnostic binary tarballs in my home folder. Using the built-in update systems also avoids that problem from .deb versions where updating the package could make the browser yell at you that it needs to be restarted when you try to open a tab.

Hmm, I might move to that. It is definitely annoying when it just periodically just stops working because I haven't restarted it and there is an update available.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by knowitnone3 »

EMM_386 wrote: post #710
kentonv wrote: post #242

I switched all the machines at https://lanparty.house over to Linux a couple months ago. So far, we've experienced noticeably fewer problems on Linux compared to Windows. Stability and performance are better. I can't think of one game we tried that didn't work. And wow is it nice not to have all the ads and crapware in our faces anymore. (I'm aware that Battlefield series and League of Legends won't work due to draco…

"And wow is it nice not to have all the ads and crapware in our faces anymore." I don't understand this - and I'm not being a Windows defender here, I use Linux when I can (and promote its use). But my Windows 11 installation has zero ads and zero "crapware". And it's a Dell! Everything that I didn't want on the machine was removed when I purchased it (two years ago). I see no ads. If I did, this can be fixed easily…

so you're saying you'd have to download some obscure software just to remove defaults from the OS and that's a plus? The fact that you even know about such software tells me you've already gone thru steps to neuter Microsoft.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by knollimar »

scaramanga wrote: post #295
shadowdev1 wrote: post #287

(cue arrogance) People on HackerNews complaining about Linux Desktop is pretty disappointing. You guys are supposed to be the real enthusiasts... you can make it work. (cue superiority complex) I've been using Linux Desktop for over 10 years. It's great for literally everything. Gaming admittedly is like 8/10 for compatibility, but I just use a VM with PCIe passthrough to pass in a gpu and to load up a game for windo…

I've observed that most "enthusiasts" are really just brand ambassadors. They've been captured by some proprietary software that doesn't run on Linux, and that's the problem of Linux. The day their set of products runs perfectly on Linux is the day Linux will be ready for them.

Is it fair to call a drafter a brand ambassador?

Also, everyone seems to blame developers for anticheat shenanigans, but is invasive anticheat evem possible on linux without trivially being able to circumvent it? I don't think this is a brand issue here

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by abrookewood »

unixhero wrote: post #648
curt15 wrote: post #415

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How much work is it to get snaps out of your way? Canonical seems to be going all in on them as their business strategy.

Just use Linux Mint

There are a few games I play that have native Linux versions available (e.g. Warhammer Total War) and getting support requires you to run Ubuntu. Not the end of the world, but that plus some dev work was enough to get me to stick to it.
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