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Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by bayareapsycho »

archeantus wrote: post #586

If you want a good job in tech, go look at Walmart’s job board in the coming weeks. They literally have thousands of Indians doing all kinds of jobs that could easily be done by Americans. I liked my time there, and there’s lots of great people, but it felt very clear that the system was being abused.

In my old org of 80ish, like half of them were from Telegana. All of management was from there. In total, at least 80% of the org was south asian. I guess it's just a coincidence ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. And I can promise you, at least half of them were completely useless. I mean, like so useless they couldn't even figure out how to use generics without 30 minutes of handholding

Also, WMT is not "in tech". Global tech is WITCH tier. The business side is run by the same type of MBA personality running Boeing

They're also forcing like half the company to move to Arkansas at the moment, so a bunch of people are trying to gtfo. I wouldn't advise anyone going there, startups are probably a better option

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by i_am_a_peasant »

tbf the only thing the US has got going for it is the english language. germany is a perfectly fine place to live and work. it’s not like if you join raytheon you’ll be playing with rockets all day. you’ll be working in a very narrow area of one isolated subsystem without being allowed to see the big picture.

You’ll probably have a 2 hour commute too, and in your free time mostly live in your car because only the big cities have any degree of walkability.

What good is more disposable income if i’m too afraid to walk alone at night.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by somenameforme »

roughly wrote: post #269
jpadkins wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The top end of H1B has been great for America. In the last few decades, there has been growth of abuse of the program to get mid level talent at below market rates which really hurts the middle class in America. People need to understand that most reformists don't want to get rid of the truly exceptional immigration to the US. We need to limit the volume, especially the immigrants that are directly competing with a h…

The hollowing out of the middle class in the US isn't because of immigrants, it's because of a sustained campaign by capital to reduce the power of labor over the last 50-odd years and to concentrate wealth as best they can. Immigrant labor contributes to that because we've got inadequate labor protections and because we bought into the idea that lower consumer prices was a fine reason to ignore both labor and antitr…

The thing you're ignoring though is that main way you reduce the power of labor is by increasing its supply.

For instance one of the key factors in society escaping feudalism and moving onto market based economies was the Black Death. It absolutely decimated society and the labor pool. This gave labor the power to demand more compensation than a share of what they produced. But in times before if they tried that then nobility could simply have said no, as there were plenty of peasants willing to work for little more than food. But when the labor supply was suddenly cut in half? Now they had all the power in the world.

Labor unions can't really combat market forces. I don't even think ethical or moral arguments work either. If somebody, in the country legally, is willing to do your job for less money, and is capable of doing so, then by what right do you have to insist that you should be the one doing your job and getting paid more? It doesn't really make much sense. If you want to increase the power of labor then, by far, the easiest way to reduce so is to reduce the supply of labor. And vice versa for weakening it.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by densh »

jmyeet wrote: post #339

I've been through this immigration system. It's capricious, arbitrary and Kafkaesque. It is absolutely clear that there is H1B abuse and I'm looking directly at the bodyshops like Infosys and Tata. Here's how it goes: 1. Apply for as many visas as possible. This is done primarily for Indian nationals for reasons which will become clear; 2. As the employer you really don't care which ones are approved or how many beca…

Some details on the Swiss side:

There are two variations of the B permit one can get. An unrestricted B permit isn't tied to a specific employer and provides a path toward permanent residence (C permit) within five years for EU citizens or ten years for non-EU citizens. Based on my experience, EU citizens almost always get an unrestricted permit and are treated relatively well by the immigration process: at their first application, they receive a five-year B permit, and at the first renewal five years later, they automatically get a C permit. As a EU citizen you just need to find a job, and your right to work is essentially unrestricted.

The non-EU path is quite different. A non-EU citizen only gets an unrestricted B permit if they prove they have special skills that are not currently available on the local job market. There is a yearly quota for such permits. One can also be unlucky and get an L permit, which is for temporary work only. Moreover, restricted B requires yearly renewal with a demonstration of ongoing employment at each renewal.

If you get a restricted B permit (or L), you don't have any direct path to a C permit, no matter how many years you've lived in Switzerland. You can complete your bachelor's, master's, and PhD degrees and continue working for a university as a contractor afterward, and still not be eligible for the path toward a C permit after over a decade of living in the country. To get a C permit, the last two years prior to the application must have been on an unrestricted B permit, working a full-time, unlimited-term job contract. The change to an unrestricted B permit requires you to have become a "special talent" during those prior years; otherwise, it won't be granted.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by yahoozoo »

rr808 wrote: post #547

My mega corp employer has started an office in Mexico staffed with mostly contractors from India. Makes sense to have in the same timezone and much cheaper than our other low cost office in Texas that has mostly h1bs.

Offshoring will probably get tariffed next.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by hshdhdhj4444 »

K0balt wrote: post #147
jpadkins wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The top end of H1B has been great for America. In the last few decades, there has been growth of abuse of the program to get mid level talent at below market rates which really hurts the middle class in America. People need to understand that most reformists don't want to get rid of the truly exceptional immigration to the US. We need to limit the volume, especially the immigrants that are directly competing with a h…

Idk what visa program was is under, but home depot used to bring in immigrants to run their stores (stockers , cashiers, etc ) under a program that meant that some contractor was putting 12 people in a 3 bedroom apartment and charging them big fees to come work for minimum wage. This was a while ago, but I was in the rental business and got to see it first hand and talk to the workers. It was extremely exploitative.…

It was not H1.

It’s likely an H2 visa (assuming it’s not undocumented immigrants). Which is unaffected and unchanged, likely because Trump properties are heavy users and dependent on these visas.

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Post by yahoozoo »

myrmidon wrote: post #273

One thing that really pisses me off about the whole populist anti-immigration stance is how thankless, hypocritical and selfish the whole thing is: People want to avoid negative effects from immigration (cultural/language/crimerate)- fine. But are those people acknowledging how much economical growth was driven by migrant labor over the last half century? Hell no. Would the average alt-righter be willing to sacrifice…

Overall “economic growth” of a country is not nearly as important to most people as is their own _personal_ economic growth, opportunity, and stability. Culture, language, and crime rates also typically take priority over the nation’s macro economic growth. Most people don’t care because they are beginning to think a lot of this isn’t worth being the #1 economy in the world, plus nobody has ever explained _why_ it’s a bad thing if the USA isn’t the world’s premier economy.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by kingstnap »

franktankbank wrote: post #489
roughly wrote: post #85

I think there’s plenty of interesting debates to be had about immigration policy and its effects on the labor market, but one thing worth noting here is that the primary problem that damn near every other country on earth has isn’t immigration, it’s brain drain. A core strategic strength of the US over the last century has been that everyone with any talent wants to come here to work, and by and large we’ve let them…

Intelligence and wisdom comes from the shores of experience. This idea that you can pull einsteins from the east is stupid.

Are you really suggesting that people who are intelligent are purely that way because of their environment and experience?

Any amount of observing children will show that equal instruction will not net equal outcome.

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