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Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by SnuffBox »

esperent wrote: post #469
ksymph wrote: post #15

This is neither here nor there but the character isn't a cat. It's in the name, Anubis, who is an Egyptian deity typically depicted as a jackal or generic canine, and the gatekeeper of the afterlife who weighs the souls of the dead (hence the tagline). So more of a dog-girl, or jackal-girl if you want to be technical.

Every representation I've ever seen of Anubis - including remarkably well preserved statues from antiquity - are either a male human body with a canine head, or fully canine. This anime girl is not Anubis. It's a modern cartoon characters that simply borrows the name because it sounds cool, without caring anything about the history or meaning behind it. Anime culture does this all the time, drawing on inspiration fro…

It's refreshing to see a reply as thought out as this in today's day and and age of "move fast and post garbage".

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Post by SnuffBox »

pembrook wrote: post #603

Something feels bizarrely incongruent about the people using Anubis. These people used to be the most vehemently pro-piracy, pro internet freedom and information accessibility, etc. Yet now when it's AI accessing their own content, suddenly they become the DMCA and want to put up walls everywhere. I'm not part of the AI doomer cult like many here, but it would seem to me that if you publish your content publicly, typ…

It is rather funny. "We must prevent AI accessing the Arch Linux help files or it will start the singularity and kill us all!"

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by SnuffBox »

serf wrote: post #133

I don't care that they use anime catgirls. What I do care about is being met with something cutesy in the face of a technical failure anywhere on the net . I hate Amazon's failure pets, I hate google's failure mini-games -- it strikes me as an organizational effort to get really good at failing rather than spending that same effort to avoid failures all together. It's like everyone collectively thought the standard o…

This is something I've always felt about design in general. You should never make it so that a symbol for an inconvenience appears happy or smug, it's a great way to turn people off your product or webpage.

Reddit implemented something a while back that says "You've been blocked by network security!" with a big smiling Reddit snoo front and centre on the page and every time I bump into it I can't help but think this.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by SnuffBox »

timcambrant wrote: post #693
hdndiebf wrote: post #483

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This anime thing is the one thing about computer culture that I just don't seem to get. I did not get it as child, when suddenly half of children cartoons became animes and I just disliked the aestheic. I didn't get it in school, when people started reading mangas . I'll probably never get it. Therefore I sincerely hope, they do go away from anubis, so I can further dwell in my ignorance.

I feel the same. It's a distinct part of nerd culture. In the '70s, if you were into computers you were most likely also a fan of Star Trek. I remember an anecdote from the 1990s when an entire dial-up ISP was troubleshooting its modem pools because there were zero people connected and they assumed there was an outage. The outage happened to occur exactly while that week's episode of X-Files was airing in their time…

> Today's analog seems to be that almost all nerds love anime and Andy Weir books and some of us feel a bit alienated by that.

Especially because (from my observation) modern "nerds" who enjoy anime seem to relish at bringing it (and various sex-related things) up at inappropriate times and are generally emotionally immature.

It's quite refreshing seeing that other people have similar lines of thinking and that I'm not alone in feeling somewhat alienated.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by SnuffBox »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #311
rootsudo wrote: post #59

When I instantly read it, I knew it was anubis. I hope the anime catgirls never disapear from that project :)

It's not the only project with an anime girl as its mascot. ComfyUI has what I think is a foxgirl as its official mascot, and that's the de-facto primary UI for generating Stable Diffusion or related content.

I've noticed the word "comfy" used more than usual recently and often by the anime-obsessed, is there cultural relevance I'm not understanding?

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by lsh0 »

jijijijij wrote: post #839
MintPaw wrote: post #827

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Yeah, but do people like that? It feels pretty patronizing to me in a similar way. Like "Weee! So cute that our website is broken, good luck doing your job! Reminds me of the old uwu error message meme.

> patronizing I think it's reasonable and fair, and something you are expected to tolerate in a free world. In fact, I think it's rather unusual to take this benign and inconsequential thing as personal as you do.

Not at all. I can't stand it either. It's definitely patronising and infantile. I tolerate the silliness, grit my teeth and move on but it wears away at my patience.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by SnuffBox »

Spivak wrote: post #759
ForHackernews wrote: post #596

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I'm not commenting on the value of this project (I wouldn't characterize captchas as DRM, but I see why you have that negative connotation) and I tend to agree with the OP that this is simply wasting energy, but the amount of seething over "anime catgirls" makes me want to write all the docs for my next projects in UwU text and charge for a whimsy-free version. (o˘◡˘o)

i love this thread because it the Serious Business Man doesn't realize that purposeful unprofessionalism like anime art, silly uwu :3 catgirls, writing with no capitalization are done specifically to be unpalatable to Serious Business Man—threatening to not interact with people like that is the funniest thing. negative signaling works!

Acting obnoxiously to piss people off makes you seem like an inexperienced teenager and distances more than "Serious Business Man".

I look forward for this to be taken to the logical extreme when a niche subculture of internet nerds change their entire online persona to revolve around scat pornography to spite "the normals", I'm sure they'll be remembered fondly as witty and intelligent and not at all as mentally ill young people.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by semiquaver »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #755
semiquaver wrote: post #747

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There’s no possible setting that would make it expensive enough to deter AI scrapers while preserving an acceptable user experience. The more zeros you add the more real users suffer, despite not creating much of a challenge to datacenter-hosted scrapers.

Real users suffer much more if the site is entirely down due to being DDoSed by aggressive AI scrapers.

Yeah, and if this tool doesn’t stop them then the site is down anyway.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by userbinator »

Aachen wrote: post #869
soared wrote: post #370

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Tried and true method! An old video game forum named moparscape used to ask what mopar was and I always had to google it

Good thing modern bots can't do a web search!

They will be as likely if not more so to fall victim to the large amount of misinformation... and AI-generated crap you'll find from doing so.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by wraptile »

DanielHB wrote: post #769
wraptile wrote: post #689

I'm a scraper developer and Anubis would have worked 10 - 20 years ago, but now all broad scrapers run on a real headless browser with full cookie support and costs relatively nothing in compute. I'd be surprised if LLM bots would use anything else given the fact that they have all of this compute and engineers already available. That being said, one point is very correct here - by far the best effort to resist broad…

How do you bypass cloudflare? I do some light scrapping for some personal stuff, but I can't figure out how to bypass it. Like do you randomize IPs using several VPNs at the same time? I usually just sit there on my phone pressing the "I am not a robot box" when it triggers.

It's still pretty hard to bypass it with open source solutions. To bypass CF you need:

- an automated browser that doesn't leak the fact it's being automated

- ability to fake the browser fingerprint (e.g. Linux is heavily penalized)

- residential or mobile proxies (for small scale your home IP is probably good enough)

- deployment environment that isn't leaked to the browser.

- realistic scrape pattern and header configuration (header order, referer, prewalk some pages with cookies etc.)

This is really hard to do at scale but for small personal scripts you can have reasonable results with flavor of the month playwright forks on github like nodriver or dedicated tools like Flaresolver but I'd just find a web scraping api with low entry price and just drop 15$ month and avoid this chase because it can be really time consuming.

If you're really on budget - most of them offer 1,000 credits for free which will get you avg 100 pages a month per service and you can get 10 of them as they all mostly function the same.

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