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‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by bjoli »

JamesAdir wrote: post #592
imchillyb wrote: post #287

Removal of occupants from West Bank and Gaza, completely, was always the overall goal here. Israel doesn't seem to care overly much how this occurs, but they're making it happen. The goal is almost reached. There will be no Palestine. Egypt doesn't want the refugees. Jordan doesn't want the refugees. Qatar doesn't want the refugees. UAE doesn't want the refugees. Syria doesn't want the refugees. Lebanon doesn't want…

Can you point out to any action about the removal of West Bank arabs? There are an estimation of 2.5-3 million arabs there. There is actually a country for these people and this is Jordan. Since in '48 the arabs didn't accept the two state solution then, they are forced to live in a country which is not for them. Also, could you please point out where are they refugees from? '48 is 77 years ago, how is the 2nd and 3r…

Well,I don't know about a population that have displaced and occupied/imprisoned for such a long time. I feel fine calling the refugees.

And don't try to claim Israel left Gaza in 2006

Area C is still under Israeli control, despite them promising to leave the are 30 years ago. And they keep on allowing new illegal settlements. Considering how much area was under the jurisdiction of settlements (well over 40% in 2010) the 22 new settlements in 2024 is potentially a huge land grab.

Re: ‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

scotty79 wrote: post #597
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #557

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Israel has been an apartheid state for decades. This has nothing to do with Hamas. Anyone who is "changing their mind" now, hasn't - it's merely no longer socially acceptable to support naked indiscriminate brutality.

How can it be apartheid state with 1/5th of its population being non-Jewish and having strong anti-discrimination laws? They don't count people living in Gaza and West-Bank who want and/or try to kill them as their own and why would they? What "being apartheid state" even means?

  Israeli apartheid is a system of institutionalized segregation and discrimination
  in the Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories and to a lesser extent in Israel proper.[a]
  ("Israel proper" refers to the borders of Israel as recognized by the majority of the international community,
   which excludes East Jerusalem, the West Bank, the Golan Heights, and the Gaza Strip.)
  
  This system is characterized by near-total physical separation between
  the Palestinian and the Israeli settler population of the West Bank,
  as well as the judicial separation that governs both communities,
  which discriminates against the Palestinians in a wide range of ways.
  
  Israel also discriminates against Palestinian refugees in the diaspora
  and against its own Palestinian citizens.[2][3][4][5][6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_apartheid

Re: ‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by churchill »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #897
churchill wrote: post #286

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For now. Eventually, the injuries your system takes over time grinds your gears to a halt. And I can provide numerous examples: Portugal's colonial holdings (Guinea-Bissau, Angola, Mozambique) were unwound after the carnation revolution because the overseas wars were consuming 50% of the national budget while the Estado Novo at home was a corrupt, violent, authoritarian, corporatist state. The Brits could not square…

My god such a telelogical view of history and it smells like generated with ChatGPT and using a few prompts to try to textual style hide it. Howard Zinn, Chomsky, and most other anti imperialist intellectuals viewed history similarly badly and are looking almost as stupid in retrospect as Fukuyama did with his claim that history has ended. For every example they bring up, there's 5 counterexamples that they didn't br…

>AI literally locks in power structures and perfects them.

There you go advancing the same teleological theory of history you're supposed to be denouncing.

Like the saying goes, history doesn't repeat, but it often rhymes: when institutions, states, etc. behave in a certain way for an extended period of time, we can infer what their future will look like by studying similar examples from the past.

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Post by [deleted] »

BigJ1211 wrote: post #862
pluto_modadic wrote: post #826

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given that Israel expanded their borders repeatedly, poisoned village wells, and considers the genocidal periods of the Nakba (their "independence holiday") something that's illegal to mourn... yes. yes it was always clear. the playbook has been the same since 1948.

If that's your criteria this is equally true on the other side of this conflict. Even predating the Jewish exodus from many Arabic nations. The primary difference between them is that the side which openly shouts for genocide doesn't have the means that the side that at least doesn't openly shout for genocide has. (By openly I mean the majority of the people, not select extreme individuals. Some of whom are in positi…

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Post by insane_dreamer »

hersko wrote: post #892
insane_dreamer wrote: post #440

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> Did the UN send peacekeepers when Russia invaded Ukraine? Do they send peacekeepers to stop the war in Sudan? Intervening in an active war is not what peacekeepers are for. True. But what's happening in Gaza is not an active war. Its oppression of a civilian population by a powerful military force. But certainly we've let other genocidal atrocities go by without intervening, such as Rwanda in '94. So you have a poi…

> True. But what's happening in Gaza is not an active war. Its oppression of a civilian population by a powerful military force. What? The government of Gaza, Hamas, is at war with Israel. Just because one side is weaker that suddenly turns them all into civilians?

There is no more Gaza government. Not to mention the fact that Gaza is for all intents and purposes a part of Israel, not an independent nation.

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Post by scotty79 »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #902
scotty79 wrote: post #597

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can it be apartheid state with 1/5th of its population being non-Jewish and having strong anti-discrimination laws? They don't count people living in Gaza and West-Bank who want and/or try to kill them as their own and why would they? What "being apartheid state" even means?

Israeli apartheid is a system of institutionalized segregation and discrimination in the Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories and to a lesser extent in Israel proper.[a] ("Israel proper" refers to the borders of Israel as recognized by the majority of the international community, which excludes East Jerusalem, the West Bank, the Golan Heights, and the Gaza Strip.) This system is characterized by near-total physic…

I see. So people who call it apartheid basically believe that places like Gaza are parts of Israel despite Israel having no administrative power there nor effective police presence.

Let's skip those places for a moment. What are the signs of apartheid in Israel proper? I don't have access to the sources listed. Just one or two things off the top of your head would be a lot for me.

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Post by justacrow »

nailer wrote: post #879

Posting at the top to point out that if you saw the image of a starving child recently, you’re looking at images of a child with a genetic disorder and you should reconsider which media you consume. You can also find more images of Mohammed al-Mutawaq, an 18-month-old with cerebral palsy, with his healthier sibling - which was cropped by the media to exaggerate claims of starvation.

Here is a picture of Yazan, 2 (article from today): https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/un-agencies-warn-key-f...

Here is a picture of a child and others begging for food at an aid center (also today): https://www.npr.org/2025/07/29/g-s1-79039/gaza-children-star...

Here's Siwar Ashoura (14th May): https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjdznz727z8o

Here's what Ahmed el-Sheikh Eid, seven, looks like (4th of May): https://www.npr.org/2025/07/29/g-s1-79039/gaza-children-star...

Here's Osama, lying in a hospital (April 25th): https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/gaza-malnutrition-children-blo...

If you see these or other pictures of starving children, you are looking at images of children intentionally being starved by Israel, and you should reconsider what you think of their methods and intentions.

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Post by Cyph0n »

ainiriand wrote: post #593
Cyph0n wrote: post #296

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The intention was clearly communicated from day 1. But Western governments willingly decided to provide diplomatic cover & military support - some to this very day - with the backing of the Western media apparatus.

Not the spanish government at least, now we are horrible aparently.

Yes, Spain, Ireland, and Belgium were/are outliers. I am generalizing because the vast majority are complicit.

It is also much simpler to do this than qualify each and every statement by enumerating the list of good or bad countries :)

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Post by anonfordays »

anonymars wrote: post #185
crystal_revenge wrote: post #17

As someone who went to US high school in the 90s, a good 1/3 of our curriculum seemed to be "never again" studies of the holocaust and other genocides throughout history. Which makes it completely incomprehensible to me that suddenly "don't talk about genocide" has become the basically law. What's worse is I actually feel openly saying "I don't support this genocide and I'm critical of the state committing it" is a r…

Probably not going to find this one encouraging: > A Columbia genocide scholar says she may leave over university’s new definition of antisemitism > ... Hirsch, the daughter of two Holocaust survivors, is now thinking of leaving the classroom altogether. https://apnews.com/article/columbia-university-antisemitism-... -- Tangentially related, I never understood how the anti-BDS laws square with the first amendment ( h…

Leftists spent years trying to pass "hate speech" laws and now that right is trying to pass "hate speech" laws leftists are clutching their pearls. It came back to bite.

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Post by wredcoll »

zamadatix wrote: post #407
wredcoll wrote: post #302

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> Even peak cancel culture wasn't quite so chilling. Wait. What? Are you trying to imply this was some kind of a real thing that happened? Sarcasm on the internet doesn't always travel well, I can't tell if you're just using this fiction as a metaphor or trying to convince people it actually happened.

This is hard to read as a genuine question so I'm not sure you'll get a genuine answer (if any response).

One of the more annoying things I've noticed as I've gotten older is just how well certain false memes spread through a society. If they're ultimately harmless, then it doesn't matter that much, but I don't think that repeating the meme/myth that there was or is a "cancel culture", much less one that could peak, is harmless.

The short, short phone typing reason is that people who use the term cancel culture are almost always using it to attack criticism, and the majority of those times, it's things that deserve criticism.

I'm not sure I can change the world or even the culture of a small internet message board, but I can at least push back on it when I see it.

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