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Re: MacBook Air M4

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Apple is better because they’re not competing on price which is why they can afford to bring so many things in house. That’s how they can afford the talent and other R&D resources. We get what we pay for.

$899 (edu) or $999 is extremely competitive for what you get. Most people buying an entry level computer these days should at least consider stretching to get a MBA than the $300-400 shovelware, they’ll get so much use out of it. My wife is still using her 2020 M1 Air and it’s still as snappy as the day we got it, still works for all her use cases. Incredible value.

Walmart is selling the 8GB M1 for $629. It presumably won’t ever get Apple Intelligence but it’s a great starter if money is tight.

I’d be tempted to buy a used machine with more RAM because I’ve had really good experiences with used electronics like laptops or phones.

BTW I have Apple Intelligence turned off but I’m not prepared to say it won’t ever be useful for anybody.

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Of course. Apple wants you to purchase their iCloud offerings and put your documents on iCloud Drive. I just buy lots of storage on my desktop and access it remotely. Tailscale makes it easy to do so.

What if your desktop fails?

I have RAID and offsite backups.

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Seems like you haven't actually looked into it if that's the impression you got, because both Thinkpad (X1) and Framework (13) make a laptop that fit your requirements. The X1 carbon even offers a 4k OLED option if you want it.

Last time I tried X1 Carbon, it got hot enough when actively using it for longer than 10 minutes to become physically uncomfortable to hold on my lap. OTOH Macbook Air not only runs cool even when you build stuff on it, but somehow manages to do so without any fans.

My MBP is physically uncomfortable to hold in my lap because it runs so cold ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: MacBook Air M4

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The performance alone says nothing. What about the battery life, size, weight, temperature, fan noise, and quality of the touchpad? These are important trade offs in any laptop.

When we’re both plugged in and my process finishes 10 minutes faster, it says something. Also the gp post specifically was about performance and specifically not efficiency. I could get 7+ hours from my work Linux laptops battery and I don’t really care for macOS. The OS quality matters more than the touch pad to me. I’ve come the appreciate a Mat screen. But im glad there is choice.

Everyone values different things and has different requirements, so I’m glad your laptop works out for you. I’m just cautioning against an emphasis on performance: even if the laptop is plugged in, other design considerations will dictate and limit the raw performance.

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It has a Ryzen 9900X, 64GB of DDR5, AMD Radeon RX6600XT, 2x2TB Hanye NVMe, ROG B650 ATX motherboard and 850W power supply. I bought the system mostly to increase the single core performance from the Ryzen 5 3600 I had before. As well as to get rid of all the little 256GB SSD disks I had in the previous one.

850W is an overkill and will affect efficiency. I'd go with less power.

Then you suddenly want a Nvidia GPU on the side and you need more power.

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Going from an X1 Carbon to a MBP felt like stepping 10 years into the future. The seamless lid close, battery life, operating temp, build quality and performance were all _huge_ upgrades. I held out on Mac for 20 yrs, no idea what I was thinking.

Lenovo laptops are seriously overhyped. I spent weeks last year trying to decide what to get to replace a MBP M2, and while Lenovo's offering was good for enterprise consumers, there was very few laptops with decent perfs and HiDPI screen in a practical form factor. I think for anyone not caring about gaming perf, the Microsoft Surface line is way ahead of anything Lenovo has to offer. For better perf Asus had a bett…

I've had countless Lenovo laptops over the years. They were amazing up until about 2012 or so. They used to be built like tanks, could survive anything, upgradeable in every way, repairable and affordable (especially used.) There was a span of over a decade where $250ish would buy you a fairly powerful used Thinkpad in decent shape, and it would last you forever because they were indestructible. My Thinkpads went diving with me into canals, oceans, piles of mud, bogs and other non-OEM-recommended-environments and they always survived. Worst case you might have to replace one component, which you could do with a swiss army knife in about thirty seconds. All of those things built tons of goodwill that carries on in people's minds today.

I say 2012 is the dividing line because that's when they released the Yoga, which was a big step in a new direction. I actually owned multiple Yogas, and didn't hate some of them, but they had nothing in common with Thinkpads. In 2012 they also released the X230, which was more locked down than the X220, which the enthusiast community hated. The decline after 2012 was sort of slow - I bought a T440p (released 2014) after my X230 got stolen and I found it was pretty decent, certainly pretty durable - but Lenovo's main focus had clearly shifted towards the new and shiny.

These days they're just another Windows laptop OEM, which is to say: built and engineered like crap, weirdly expensive for what you get, horribly ugly, software full of ads and spyware and AI bullshit, disposable after a few years. The M1 Air was released 5 years ago this year and I still use two on a daily basis for serious tasks; I'll probably be using them years into the future too. They're not really repairable, but they do last. Any five year old Windows laptop is slow as a dog, has small plastic parts breaking off of it, looks somehow even shittier than it did originally, and of course is full of adware and garbage.

Anyway, that's all to say: yes, in 2025 Lenovo is overhyped, but that's just reputational inertia from many years where they were genuinely good.

Re: MacBook Air M4

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There's nothing close, Apple has better talent and the vertical integration gives them an edge (especially on performance per watt on their chip designs). Since the M series chips, there's been no other option if you care about quality. There are crappy alternatives with serious tradeoffs if for some reason you are forced to not use Apple or choose for non-quality reasons.

Is the performance gap so huge? Power efficiency yes, absolutely, but for peak performance last I saw the last AMD vs M3 benchmarks were a slightly slower single core, and a little faster in multicore. Doesn't seem as world changing as described.

My M1 Max MBP is a bit slower feeling than a new Lenovo Thinkpad P16s (Ryzen 7 Pro 7840U) I have, when using VS Code in Linux. But a M3 Max MBP I have blows it away. If you run Linux, and care about MacOS apps or need non-dev stuff like Outlook, then a Linux AMD laptop can be a really cheap, fast option. Unfortunately the manufacturers don't want to load them out... like my AMD chip supports 128GB, but no laptop manuf. will lay down more than 64GB.

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Still no cellular modem.

it turns out you can simply tether this thing called an iPhone that almost everyone over wifi.

No you can’t. At least not practically. iOS turns of hot spot after like 60s of activity, meaning working over an iPhone means constantly turning on hot spot. It’s one of those eternal software bugs in the Apple eco system. The general poor state of software of apple products was discussed some time ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43243075

Re: MacBook Air M4

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No Nano-Texture Option. I actually returned an M3 Macbook Air I got for xmas because I find it too reflective, waiting and hoping for a non-reflective Macbook Air. If Apple had made it clear they weren't gonna release a non-reflective screen for the Macbook air, I might've just kept the M3 or perhaps gotten the heavy Pro. Now I don't feel like getting any of these.

Get a high-quality (well-reviewed; not cheap) matte glass. Mine has no noticeable degradation of the image quality, and it's the best portable screen in my house (my OLED TV is a little better, but of course). I know, I know, it doesn't feel nice to stick glass in front of it -- but seriously, try it. I didn't believe it at first, but it's great.

Do you have a recommendation. With the state of reviews these days, it seems 80% of well reviewed peripherals are like garbage.

One concern is that adding a layer to the screen is not intended for the device, and it will scratch or touch for example the keys.

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Once you bump the RAM and disk, it's not too much of a leap to a Pro. 13" M4 Air, 24GB, 512GB - £1,399 14" M4 Pro MBP, 24GB, 512GB - £1,779 at Costco. For that you get amazing speakers, way better screen (with correct scaling), more performance, better chip, better battery, better mics, TB5 ports and HDMI/SD ports.

Can you clarify what you mean by "correct scaling"?

The airs are fractionally scaled I believe. It just looks "off" to my eye. The pros are integer scaled and look perfect
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