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#901

Anyone really finding ai useful for coding? I'm finding it to make things up, get things wrong, ignore things I ask. Def not worried about losing my job to it.

Yes, it helps me write SQL queries in seconds that I otherwise would spend days on or give up completely.

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#902
This is just a bad model. I can't believe they released it. Yes it does have few interesting properties, but nothing that justifies the speed or cost when people are running R1 distillations on toasters for nothing.

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#903

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> will nonetheless make people's lives better Probably not the lives of translators or graphic designers or music compositors. They will have to find new jobs. As llm prompt engineers, I guess.

Graphic designers I think are safe, at least within organizations that require a cohesive brand strategy. Getting the AI to respect all of the previous art will be a challenge at a certain scale. Fiverr graphic designers on the other hand…

There are people generating mostly consistent AI porn models using LORA, the same strategy could be used to bias the model towards consistent output for corporate branding.

Even if its not perfect, many startups will be using AI to generate their branding for the first 5 years and put others out of a job.

Right now the tools are primitive, but leave it to the internet to pioneer the way with porn...

Re: GPT-4.5

#904
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I’m not an expert or anything, but from my vantage point, each passing release makes Altman’s confidence look more aspirational than visionary, which is a really bad place to be with that kind of money tied up. My financial manager is pretty bullish on tech so I hope he is paying close attention to the way this market space is evolving. He’s good at his job, a nice guy, and surely wears much more expensive underwear…

You're the one buying him the underwear. Don't index funds outperform managed investing? I think especially after accounting for fees, but possibly even after accounting that 50% of money managers are below average.

Most index funds are synthetic. They would not be possible if it was not possible to beat the index quite reliably.

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#905

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> AI as it stands in 2025 is an amazing technology, but it is not a product at all. Here I'm assuming "AI" to mean what's broadly called Generative AI (LLMs, photo, video generation) I genuinely am struggling to see what the product is too. The code assistant use cases are really impressive across the board (and I'm someone who was vocally against them less than a year ago), and I pay for Github CoPilot (for now) but…

> I genuinely am struggling to see what the product is too. They're nice for summarizing and categorizing text. We've had good solutions for that before, too (BERT, et al), but LLM's are marginally nicer. > Is there a market of people clamoring to use/get anything GenAI related? No. LLM's are lame and uncool. Kids especially dislike them a lot on that basis alone.

> LLM's are lame and uncool. Kids especially dislike them a lot on that basis alone.

Not just kids.

Re: GPT-4.5

#906

Is it official then? Most of us have been waiting for this moment for a while. The transformer architecture as it is currently understood can't be milked any further. Many of us knew this since last year. GPT-5 delays eventually led to non-tech voices to suggest likewise. But we all held our final decision until the next big release from OpenAI as Sam Altman has been making claims about AGI entering the workforce thi…

As someone who is terrified of agentic ASI, I desperately hope this is true. We need more time to figure out alignment.

"alignment" is a bs term made up to deflect blame from the overpromises the AI companies made to hype up their product to obtain their valuations.

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#907

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What's the difference between your "agentic AIs" and, say, "script kiddies" or "expert anarchist/black-hat hackers"? It's been obvious for a while that the narrow-waist APIs between things matter, and apparent that agentic AI is leaning into adaptive API consumption, but I don't see how that gives the agentic client some super-power we don't already need to defend against since before AGI we already have HGI (human g…

> What's the difference between your "agentic AIs" and, say, "script kiddies" or "expert anarchist/black-hat hackers"? Intelligence. I'm talking about super-intelligence. If you want to know what it feels like to be intellectually outclassed by a machine, download the latest Go engine and have fun losing again and again while not understanding why. Now imagine an ASI that isn't confined to the Go board, but operating…

I completely agree with you. Chess/Go/Poker have shown that these systems can become so advanced, it becomes impossible for a human to understand why the AI chose a move.

Talk to the best chess players in the world and they'll tell you flat out they can't begin to understand some of the engine's moves.

It won't be any different with ASI. It will do things for reasons we are incapable of understanding. Some of those things, will certainly be harmful to humans.

Re: GPT-4.5

#908
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GPT 4.5 pricing is insane: Price Input: $75.00 / 1M tokens Cached input: $37.50 / 1M tokens Output: $150.00 / 1M tokens GPT 4o pricing for comparison: Price Input: $2.50 / 1M tokens Cached input: $1.25 / 1M tokens Output: $10.00 / 1M tokens It sounds like it's so expensive and the difference in usefulness is so lacking(?) they're not even gonna keep serving it in the API for long: > GPT‑4.5 is a very large and comput…

I suspect this is GPT-5. This is the biggest model they made and they got very little ROI hence the re-branding.

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#909

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I agree unfortunately. I might be a bit of an extremist on this issue. I genuinely think that building agentic ASI is suicidally stupid and we just shouldn’t do it. All the utopian visions we hear from the optimists describe unstable outcomes. A world populated by super-intelligent agents will be incredibly dangerous even if it appears initially to have gone well. We’ll have built a paradise in which we can never rel…

What's the difference between your "agentic AIs" and, say, "script kiddies" or "expert anarchist/black-hat hackers"? It's been obvious for a while that the narrow-waist APIs between things matter, and apparent that agentic AI is leaning into adaptive API consumption, but I don't see how that gives the agentic client some super-power we don't already need to defend against since before AGI we already have HGI (human g…

> What's the difference between your "agentic AIs" and, say, "script kiddies" or "expert anarchist/black-hat hackers"?

The difference is that a highly intelligent human adversary is still limited by human constraints. The smartest and most dangerous human adversary is still one we can understand and keep up with. AI is a different ball game. It's more similar to the difference in intelligence between a human and a dog.

Re: GPT-4.5

#910

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Hey, check this one out with all the different flavors that existed out there. I think I made something better. https://cofyt.app As far as I am aware, feel free to test it head-to-head. This is better than gecall, and you can chat with a transcript for detailed answers to your prompts

I tried it out, looks nice and clean. But as I mentioned, my main concern is what will happen in 6 months when you fail to get traction and abandon it. Because that's what happened to previous 5 products I tried which were all "good enough" . Getrecall seems to have a big enough user base that will actually stick around.

Thank you for getting back to me.

I understand your perfectly reasonable argument to make from your position (user).

First let me tell you that I saw a lot of things out there including getrecall before starting building this and felt there was nothing out there that had a good UX/UI that actually makes it a enjoyable product (nice and clean).

I’m confident in the direction and committed to seeing it through by building something better for me and maybe for you to by doing it with more care.

Appreciate your feedback and while no one can control the future I´ve added this thread to my calendar do come back here in 6months.

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