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Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Post by tayo42 »

dang wrote: post #894
tayo42 wrote: post #120

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Personal attacks will get you banned here. Moreover, we've had to warn you more than once before about breaking the site guidelines. I don't want to ban you but if you keep doing this, we'll end up having to. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it. p.s. Also, please don't use HN primarily for political or ideological battle.…

How are you interpreting that as a personal attack? I didn't say anything about the posters character?

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Post by dennis_jeeves2 »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #450
snapcaster wrote: post #179

I think "being informed" is very overrated in general. Often it means being informed about palace intrigue and intelligence service/corporate narratives. I would say that in general media consumption or "staying informed" should be seen as a vice not a virtue

So what's your alternative? Living in ignorance until it's too late?

>So what's your alternative? Living in ignorance until it's too late?

Too late for what? you are _already_ a slave to the system from birth to grave. If there is anything you can do, do it regardless of the news which is a distraction/propaganda.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Post by dang »

tayo42 wrote: post #901
dang wrote: post #894

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personal attacks will get you banned here. Moreover, we've had to warn you more than once before about breaking the site guidelines. I don't want to ban you but if you keep doing this, we'll end up having to. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it. p.s. Also, please don't use HN primarily for political or ideological battle.…

How are you interpreting that as a personal attack? I didn't say anything about the posters character?

"lmao at this guy [...] you can't be serious [...] I know you are though" pattern matches, to me at least, as a snarky putdown.

If you didn't intend it that way, it would probably be better to have expressed your point in a way that made that clearer. Past explanations about this, in case helpful: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Post by chgs »

zo1 wrote: post #543
dralley wrote: post #529

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60% reduction of a small number is a small number. Go look at how much the numbers dropped from 2022 to 2024. The problem was effectively solved already.

I did look at the numbers, from the official US dataset published I guess by a Biden-controlled admin. https://www.cbp.gov/document/stats/southwest-land-border-enc... And I don't know how you claim such things: Trump 2019: 977,509 Trump 2020: 458,088 (46.86% from previous year) Biden 2021: 1,734,686 (378.68% from previous year) Biden 2022: 2,378,944 (137.14% from previous year) Biden 2023: 2,475,669 (104.07% from pre…

2020 had Covid, somewhat different circumstance from 2019

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Post by joshdavham »

nonethewiser wrote: post #861
joshdavham wrote: post #42

One thing to consider for those of us who are more sensitive to online outrage is to just quit social media all together. I’m technically gen z and I’ve been off of social media (aside from HN, WhatsApp and discord) for years and you wouldn’t believe how great it’s been for my overall state of mind. Reddit, instagram, X, Facebook, TikTok, LinkedIn, Threads, etc are all the equivalent of digital junk food and I’d argu…

> One thing to consider for those of us who are more sensitive to online outrage is to just quit social media all together. This is hard to overstate. Checkout Jonathan Haidts research into social medias role in skyrocketing mental health problems in kids over the past decade. The junkfood comparison is great. It feels good now but makes you extremely unhealthy long term. Its deceptive because it doesnt look that bad…

> Checkout Jonathan Haidts research

I love that guy! He generally makes the rounds as a guest on most of the large podcasts and I’d recommend anyone listen to at least one podcast where he’s a guest.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Post by tayo42 »

dang wrote: post #903
tayo42 wrote: post #901

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How are you interpreting that as a personal attack? I didn't say anything about the posters character?

"lmao at this guy [...] you can't be serious [...] I know you are though" pattern matches, to me at least, as a snarky putdown. If you didn't intend it that way, it would probably be better to have expressed your point in a way that made that clearer. Past explanations about this, in case helpful: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

Hmm I was sharing how wildly uncalled for a comment like that was, to the point I found it amusing.

I guess I interpret personal attack as something like "your an idiot", which I don't think I was doing.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Post by joshdavham »

Dowwie wrote: post #859
joshdavham wrote: post #42

One thing to consider for those of us who are more sensitive to online outrage is to just quit social media all together. I’m technically gen z and I’ve been off of social media (aside from HN, WhatsApp and discord) for years and you wouldn’t believe how great it’s been for my overall state of mind. Reddit, instagram, X, Facebook, TikTok, LinkedIn, Threads, etc are all the equivalent of digital junk food and I’d argu…

what are your sources for news?

> what are your sources for news?

Unironically, my friends, family and colleagues. If anything truly important happens that ends up being relevant to me, the probability that one of them tells me is close to 100%. I don’t need the news or social media for that.

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Post by glaugh »

slantedview wrote: post #814
michaelmdresser wrote: post #795

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I’ve been sticking to the weekly edition of The Economist for years to stay informed while escaping the news cycle. The US coverage is remarkably good. The weekly cadence mean I’m often a week behind the news, but to me that’s a feature. The editorial pieces (those expressing “the opinion of the newspaper”) are kept separate as “Leaders” and I read them last, if it all; I usually read each issue back-to-front followi…

The Economist is not exactly a neutral source of information, and is very much pro-big business, which has caused it to take horrible positions on many important issues throughout its long history, such as overthrowing democratic governments, supporting dictatorships, etc.

I’d say it’s pro economic development. Like they express concerns around the decline of anti-trust enforcement.

I’m sure it’s true that they used to advocate dictators, but in the 30 years of reading it as my primary news source, they’ve always seemed to me to be very consistently on the side of liberalism (in the older sense of the word) and very concerned about democracy

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Post by esafak »

toasterlovin wrote: post #329

I think it's always worth keeping in mind that every single piece of media you consume was created primarily to benefit its creator and almost always the relationship is parasitic (you're the host). Only rarely does media engage in mutualism.

I don't think people become journalists with that mindset.

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Post by brewdad »

rightbyte wrote: post #871
wat10000 wrote: post #847

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I was in Europe for a while starting right after 9/11 and there was a lot of shame and no lack of pointed questions. The locals didn’t hate us, but there was a decent amount of “what the hell is wrong with you guys?” It was not uncommon for American travelers to put Canadian flag pins on their backpacks to try to deflect attention or curry favor. It’s surely ten times worse now. Trump makes W look like a statesman, a…

I remember the anti-US sentiment among people at the time of the invasion of Iraq as way harsher than now during Trump. Like not even close. It seems to be mainly European neoliberals that are more upset about Trump.

I think it's more that there is nothing to be gained about asking an American in Europe about Trump. Most likely, they think he's a douchenozzle too so why bring him up and ruin a vacationer's day. On the off chance they are a Trump supporter, now the European has to listen to an idiot spout Newsmax nonsense until they can get away.
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