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Does anyone know what the actual bill that got signed was. All I can find is a bill that was passed by the house but stuck in the senate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protecting_Americans_from_Fore...

It passed in the House 352-65, and in the Senate 79-18, both in April 2024.

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I think apps like TikTok or YouTube Shorts literally brainwash people. It’s one of the dumbest things ever invented on the Internet, yet incredibly addictive at the same time.

I can't believe how ignorant some people could be. It is so easy to find reports and evidence of how Tiktok could be of great value to people. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/16/dining/tiktok-ban-cooking... https://www.today.com/popculture/books/what-is-booktok-meani... https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-67555175

Not that I really care enough to ban TikTok, but the value demonstrated here is pretty spurious. You could swap "TikTok" with "socializing", and I'm sure these people would've had similar outcomes.

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This seems to imply that the president elect can make unilateral guarantees contravening US law. That’s a surprising outcome.

If you are surprised this happens given Jan 6 events you have been living under a rock. There is a good chance there will be no more fair elections in US.

It seems USA is completely blinded by some immaterial force. How can people not see all the blatant lie from Trump and his bootlickers? Why is USA refusing to fight (or at least help allies substantially) against Russia, which commits crimes on the level of Nazi Germany in WWII?

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I feel like the free speech enthusiasts are missing some imagination and failing to see the situation we are in post-algorithms. By now -- people have used their free speech to make reels for every possibly viewpoint convincing any possible demography about anything. The trail of reels needed to convert a mountain biker to a racist, or a Lego builder to an LBTQ ally, is out there. Making the free speech isn't the iss…

> With TikTo... you find that people's opinion change very gradually and without perception over the course of half a year. Never seeing "TikTok" -- only seeing "people like you" (which can be a function of time, and evolve) sharing their heartfelt opinions. > Not anything blatant of course. Blatant stuff does not change peoples opinions anyway. Just subtly bump some reels that has been proven to shift a demography i…

I am not sure why you think I think Instagram etc. are innocent. For all I care all social media could be shut down.

My point was that the free speech discourse around this is naive. The "speech" in question is providing ammunition for the owners of the algorithms, who are doing the most important expression through how those algorithms are tuned.

My point was that social media should be discussed more like nuclear weapons are discussed.

It makes strategically sense for US to not have Chinese nuclear weapons/social media deployed on its soil/in the heads of its citizens; regardless of whether US nuclear weapons/social media is morally superior.

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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho to the rescue!! For those who haven’t seen it yet, go watch Idiocracy from Mike Judge. It’s a preview of the years to come.

That's a unfair comparison towards President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho. Didn't he give up his position in the end towards the more qualified main character of the movie?

After attempting to murder him first. But yes.

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I think apps like TikTok or YouTube Shorts literally brainwash people. It’s one of the dumbest things ever invented on the Internet, yet incredibly addictive at the same time.

I can't believe how ignorant some people could be. It is so easy to find reports and evidence of how Tiktok could be of great value to people. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/16/dining/tiktok-ban-cooking... https://www.today.com/popculture/books/what-is-booktok-meani... https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-67555175

Having some amount of utility doesn't contradict it possibly being used for nefarious purposes by it's owners though. If I intentionally wanted to design an information warfare weapon, I'd make sure to sugarcoat it with interesting/funny/useful content to make it palatable. Just like putting the soldiers inside a giant wooden horse.

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I think apps like TikTok or YouTube Shorts literally brainwash people. It’s one of the dumbest things ever invented on the Internet, yet incredibly addictive at the same time.

Never had TikTok, but that's exactly what I thought when Youtube introduced Shorts and I found myself spending long sessions in them. However, now I think it's the same infinite scroll we already had in twitter and reddit -- but instead of text and images, now it's just videos. At the beginning the content was really dumb and bad, but after some time it became way better. Now my feed is basically cooking recipes, che…

This type of comment comes up here a lot, but maybe you should show us what exactly you mean?

Because at least for physics and chemistry, those are topics where, in my experience, you need deep, sustained engagement to make any personal progress on them.

Sure, you can probably learn a few fun facts through TikTok but really what's the point?

There are only 24 hours in a day. The hours you spend doomscrolling through - in the best case - fun facts about physics and chemistry are hours you spend not doing anything of value, like learning about actual physics or chemistry.

I get that you don't need to be doing something super productive all the time, what I'm saying is that I think you're fooling yourself if you believe that TikTok and co. are anything more than the shallowest form of entertainment available.

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