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Post by wwilim »

Morphiak wrote: post #663
jayd16 wrote: post #306

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6dof input from hand gestures is a killer feature but it has to be rock solid. So far only controllers can do it but it's getting much better every year. Haptic feedback, discrete buttons and precise analog input from controllers are also very important. The downside of controllers is that your hands are full and it's just not feasible for an all day wearable. Hopefully someone figures out a good compromise be it rin…

My killer feature will be a keyboard (/mouse) in a wristband(s), which comes along with, or nearby 6dof (also worthy, but not a personal grail). Electromyography is an awesome technology, among other reasons, because it can (or will) detect neural signals below the activation (movement) threshold, meaning you should be able to train yourself to type without moving your fingers. A viable way to thought control without…

It would be a Bene Gesserit keyboard

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Post by stiray »

marcellus23 wrote: post #893
stiray wrote: post #886

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Not only my point stands, I still remember a world almost without narcissists, people traveling for fun, not to take a photo to brag, times where people listened to doctors not some people recommending horse dewormer, UK not suffering due to Brexit consequences ( https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8425058/ ), people actually bonding in person,... Or in words of Umberto Eco ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umberto_Eco ): “So…

This reeks of nostalgia. The past wasn't as great as you remember it, and the present isn't as terrible as you think it is.

Nope, I am quite rational here and if I wouldn't witness change in society, I wouldn't believe it. I am seriously worried for humanity, as what I am seeing today is: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808 (and this was shot in pre-facebook era)

Fun fact, they didn't have large budget for shooting so they were searching for footwear that would look futuristic. They found some unknown company producing cheap "shoes" so horrible that the director wasn't worried for it to succeed as "no one would wear that". The company was Crocks.

https://media.snopes.com/2023/09/idiocracy.png

Anyway, this whole thread is actually proving my point. It wouldn't happen before Facebook.

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Post by lagniappe »

ang_cire wrote: post #728
lagniappe wrote: post #656

In the future, these aren't glasses, they're contact lenses that are powered by the microscopic "jiggles" the lenses of your eyes make as they move back and forth, to show you ad-supported floating product descriptions in-place as you shop, or character notes to help you follow plotlines better as you watch a show.

> to show you ad-supported floating product descriptions in-place as you shop Just so we're on the same page... you do think this is a bad thing, right?

Bad in current context or in future context? Imagine telling someone in the 1700's that in the future you'd have a glass lens in your eye (no polymer membranes yet) to see better, or wires attached to your heart. They'd consider you a heretic.

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Post by JimDabell »

stiray wrote: post #878
raxxorraxor wrote: post #848

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For me personally they build a lot of trust back with their work on llama. Also they do have capable software engineers. But hardware is a different thing. I am still burned by their handling of hardware support for Oculus devices. To such a degree that neither VR nor AR is of significant interest anymore, never mind developing software for such products. That said, I was never a Facebook user. I do have an account a…

If you are android user, dont know about Apple, 3rd party applications are full of Facebook SDK, try installing https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard/releases (and pay author a coffee, he seriously deserves it) and check the domains apps are accessing. You might figure out you are Facebook user. Just nobody told you.

This was the point of App Tracking Transparency (ATT) on iOS. If an app embeds a third-party SDK that tracks you, such as the Facebook SDK, they are required to get your permission first with a system popup. They aren’t allowed to track you silently without your knowledge.

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Post by [deleted] »

stiray wrote: post #886
zer0zzz wrote: post #874

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Did you just compare a Silicon Valley tech company selling ads to IG Farben? It’s very hard to take this post seriously even though your point stands.

Not only my point stands, I still remember a world almost without narcissists, people traveling for fun, not to take a photo to brag, times where people listened to doctors not some people recommending horse dewormer, UK not suffering due to Brexit consequences ( https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8425058/ ), people actually bonding in person,... Or in words of Umberto Eco ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umberto_Eco ): “So…

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Post by talldayo »

Meniceses wrote: post #894
raxxorraxor wrote: post #848

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For me personally they build a lot of trust back with their work on llama. Also they do have capable software engineers. But hardware is a different thing. I am still burned by their handling of hardware support for Oculus devices. To such a degree that neither VR nor AR is of significant interest anymore, never mind developing software for such products. That said, I was never a Facebook user. I do have an account a…

Paid and provided by "Pay to win games, targeting kids, not preventing fake news (covid, human harrassment etc.), probably someone died due to lack of taking ownership/responsibility, election fraud through not acting on it. Yes i do like Llama but lets be honest who paid for it and for what. Just because suckerburg gives us nice toys... He could actually start giving his money away to humanity in a relevant and mean…

> Paid and provided by "Pay to win games, targeting kids, not preventing fake news

Guess what? New iOS features and YouTube videos are paid-for and provided in the exact same way. Both Apple and Google are complicit in spreading misinformation, advertising to kids and profiting from lootbox/microtransaction revenue. But nobody consciously objects to Apple for partnering with Taboola, or Google for supporting extremism on YouTube. No sane critic lashes out at Tim Cook or Sundar Pichai demanding they donate their life savings to offset the obvious damages they've created.

I think Meta and moreover Facebook is a purely detestable platform. It's absolutely hilarious how unwilling this website is to apply the same criticism to their other favorite services. The cognitive dissonance is arresting.

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Post by robertlagrant »

JimDabell wrote: post #900
zer0zzz wrote: post #874

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Did you just compare a Silicon Valley tech company selling ads to IG Farben? It’s very hard to take this post seriously even though your point stands.

Why are you downplaying them as “a tech company selling ads” when the most relevant characteristic of theirs is facilitating genocide in Myanmar, then obstructing the investigation, and fuelling ethnic violence in more places like Ethiopia? https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-faceb... https://time.com/5880118/myanmar-rohingya-genocide-facebook-... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/07/…

I'm not sure exactly what the extent of the "facilitation" was in the first link, so what I'm about to say might be a little vague, but the second doesn't appear to be about them covering up their role in said "facilitation", but rather their refusal to provide so much user data to The Gambia looking to prosecute Myanmar officials for war crimes.

The way you've phrased that makes it sound as though Facebook were trying to hide the actions they took to facilitate things, which I think is a miscommunication.

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Post by EasyMark »

FL33TW00D wrote: post #768

Incredible amount of negativity here. Huge kudos to Meta for breaking new ground and doing a ton of R&D/M&A to get to this point. Once MicroLED comes on a little further and the form factor shrinks this could be the next consumer electronics platform. Silicon carbide is really interesting, we need high RI materials to make this work. Hopefully glass 3D printing or similar will make cheap, Rx waveguides possible.

I agree, just because you don’t like a company or you don’t have a use for the device doesn’t mean that it can’t be a good step forward for tech in general, and for those who will find a use for it.

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Post by valval »

Meniceses wrote: post #896
FL33TW00D wrote: post #768

Incredible amount of negativity here. Huge kudos to Meta for breaking new ground and doing a ton of R&D/M&A to get to this point. Once MicroLED comes on a little further and the form factor shrinks this could be the next consumer electronics platform. Silicon carbide is really interesting, we need high RI materials to make this work. Hopefully glass 3D printing or similar will make cheap, Rx waveguides possible.

Some people have morals and ethics and believe that its not okay to just do what facebook does without taking responsibility. You build a platform which allows you to share fake news and pay to win shit to billions? You make sure the algorithm makes you as much money as possible? You know who made sure facebook fixes this? Politics, not suckerburg.

Are your morals better than mine? Mine say that Meta is a successful business that has delivered on user demand for a solid while now.

My morals also say that sharing any news, be it fake or real, should be allowed. Likewise they say making as much money as possible is admirable.

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