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Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon
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#902From Israel's perspective, this supply chain attack was undoubtedly a clever move, but I can't help but wonder about its long-term consequences. Although it was aimed at harming Israel's adversaries, third-party countries may now hesitate to involve Israel in their supply chains. There's also the risk that other major producers could replicate this tactic, potentially leading to further escalation in the region or be…
The fact that they attacked them via their communication network that was intended to avoid Israeli surveillance, is irregular warfare at its finest. The main injury inflicted on individuals was psychological - we got into your supply chain this far. Also, your attempts to avoid us failed. But at an org level? They just disabled the entire comms system, whether through explosions, or by making people scared of explos…
> The main injury inflicted on individuals was psychological
Have you seen the footage(0) from hospitals? It's likely that hundreds of Hezbollah members lost hands, eyes, etc. That will degrade their military effectiveness significantly, especially the people who were blinded. And remember that Hezbollah is trying(1) to prevent more footage of the attack from getting out, so what we've seen publicly quite likely underplays the full extent of it.
Sure, maybe you could argue that the "main" effect in terms of total numbers was psychological. But we shouldn't understate how many Hezbollah members were directly given life-long injuries that will make them ineffective forever. That's a huge win for Israel.
0) https://x.com/Osint613/status/1836040863195029530 1) https://x.com/Saul_Sadka/status/1836039347210002899
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#903Reminds me of two things: 1. Mossad killed the chief bombmaker of Hamas with an exploding phone in 1996: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahya_Ayyash 2. My grandma used to say not to wear my phone on me, especially close to my heart or my balls, because she thought it was dangerous somehow. Turns out she was right!
it was not the mossad, it was the shin bet.
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#904Israel's Mossad spy agency planted a small amount (3 gm) of explosives inside 5,000 pagers made by Gold Apollo (a Taiwanese company). "The Mossad injected a board inside of the device that has explosive material that receives a code." 3,000 of the pagers exploded when a coded message was sent to them. Gold Apollo founder Hsu Ching-Kuang said the pagers used in the explosion were made by a company in Europe that had t…
Where is the line between war and terrorism ? This attack is quite indiscriminate. There are already videos circulating of random people being collateral damage. Israel is losing the support of people more and more, and all that due to the crusade of Netanyahu to stay in power and to not be imprisoned for his former crimes. Despicable. So much human suffering and for what ?
Exactly this. It's interesting how I haven't been able to find any single media portraying this as a possible act of terror while they have been quite critical of conduct in Gaza. I hope this changes as there really needs to be a reckoning with the idea of bombs randomly triggered anywhere, maybe hospitals, schools, theaters.
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I'm still not really sure why Isreal causes such polarised emotions.
However, one thing is certain, this level of polarisation is not going to help.
The "fixing" of Israel and its neighbours requires a change of attitude from many people, including us.
Currently, there are no "good guys" only future victims.
Its all to easy to see someone bomb civilians and say "well yeah its justified because they did it first." Ok, I understand, but how do you get to a state where that doesn't happen again?
There are other wars we can draw some parallels from that might help. Most notably is the irish civil war in the 6 counties (1919-200x). Britian went round shooting anyone that looked like the IRA, and the IRA went round shooting andbombing, the UDF et all also bombed and shot whomever they thought were wrong.
THe war intensified, but it was only when all the players started talking did something good happen (Ireland, UK, USA)
The problem here is that the number of parties that need to talk are quite high, and two of the main actors are currently run be recalcitrant pricks.
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#907Israel's Mossad spy agency planted a small amount (3 gm) of explosives inside 5,000 pagers made by Gold Apollo (a Taiwanese company). "The Mossad injected a board inside of the device that has explosive material that receives a code." 3,000 of the pagers exploded when a coded message was sent to them. Gold Apollo founder Hsu Ching-Kuang said the pagers used in the explosion were made by a company in Europe that had t…
I wouldn't wish to be in the PR damage control team of Gold Apollo right now. This was a direct attack to their survival as company. Will they sue Israeli government for turning their product into a bomb used to mutilate and kill people? Seems not probable. Will they sue the Hungarian company making the bombs? That would be a more realistic target. Now Hezbollah has an excuse to attack Hungary interests in the EU and…
> That company should be crushed and closed for good by the Hungarian law system IMO. Either you are a military grade company or you aren't.
Were the pagers military grade? Hungarian company providing military equipment to Hezbollah would be a scandal on its own.
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#908Israel's Mossad spy agency planted a small amount (3 gm) of explosives inside 5,000 pagers made by Gold Apollo (a Taiwanese company). "The Mossad injected a board inside of the device that has explosive material that receives a code." 3,000 of the pagers exploded when a coded message was sent to them. Gold Apollo founder Hsu Ching-Kuang said the pagers used in the explosion were made by a company in Europe that had t…
Where is the line between war and terrorism ? This attack is quite indiscriminate. There are already videos circulating of random people being collateral damage. Israel is losing the support of people more and more, and all that due to the crusade of Netanyahu to stay in power and to not be imprisoned for his former crimes. Despicable. So much human suffering and for what ?
This military response was the opposite of indiscriminate. It was proportionate and targeted. It focussed as best as anyone ever could on the precise set of people who (hiding among their own civilians) have been launching hundreds of inaccurate rockets to kill Israeli civilians - for months.
Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon
#909Israel's Mossad spy agency planted a small amount (3 gm) of explosives inside 5,000 pagers made by Gold Apollo (a Taiwanese company). "The Mossad injected a board inside of the device that has explosive material that receives a code." 3,000 of the pagers exploded when a coded message was sent to them. Gold Apollo founder Hsu Ching-Kuang said the pagers used in the explosion were made by a company in Europe that had t…
I wouldn't wish to be in the PR damage control team of Gold Apollo right now. This was a direct attack to their survival as company. Will they sue Israeli government for turning their product into a bomb used to mutilate and kill people? Seems not probable. Will they sue the Hungarian company making the bombs? That would be a more realistic target. Now Hezbollah has an excuse to attack Hungary interests in the EU and…
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