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Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by hgfhfdg »

PaulRobinson wrote: post #872
oceanplexian wrote: post #732

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> Isn't it wiser to stop at some point, and find other stuff to do, even if all your nerves say otherwise? The problem is that government doesn’t have a line, that line is defined by the resistance it faces. Today it might be people sharing MP3s, tomorrow they will come after you for hosting a parody of mickey mouse. 10 years from now they’ll be busting down doors for sharing illegal memes (Seems to already be the ca…

> 10 years from now they’ll be busting down doors for sharing illegal memes (Seems to already be the case in the UK). UK law does not prohibit memes. It prohibits incitement to riot, as does US law. It prohibits incitement to murder, as does US law. In fact, these acts are illegal in almost every democracy in the World, even the most progressive and liberal ones, because they are reasonable statutes to extend common…

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Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by squidbeak »

snapcaster wrote: post #284
squidbeak wrote: post #276

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It isn't 'a difference of opinion'. Dotcom has relayed Russian disinformation to an impressionable mass audience and heartily cheerled an invasion. It's not surprising that people who disagree with him politically find themselves amused or glad at the prospect of due process being served in this individual's case - where they might otherwise have been indifferent or grudgingly sympathetic.

what makes you so sure you're not the impressionable audience being fed misinformation?

Russia's quite open about it, and figures involved boast about it (as Margarita Simonyan and Vladislav Surkov both have). It's also trivially easy to compare the heavily digested and sanitised information that Russian affiliates feed their western audiences with Russia's domestic information space and notice the contradictions, for example, in outrages dismissed by their foreign servants but celebrated at home.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by hgfhfdg »

fnordian_slip wrote: post #863
rustcleaner wrote: post #795

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>that line is defined by the resistance it faces THIS is why the Second Amendment. It's easy to revenge-kill a crazy, it's harder to revenge-kill a government. Keep your governments small and your crazies armed!

I've never understood that sentiment. The US has the second amendment, and it doesn't seem to do much for personal freedom there. Europe does not, and I feel a lot more free in most European countries than I do in the US, especially when it comes to encounters with representatives of the state (LEOs).

There was a twitter thread where someone from Russia said he was beaten up by police in Netherlands during a peaceful protest. He was accused of attending the wrong protest by twitter Europhiles. Now, something tells me it's easy to feel safe when you conform.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by hgfhfdg »

djur wrote: post #849
mjt91 wrote: post #841

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>In 2001, Schmitz bought €375,000 worth of shares of the nearly bankrupt company Letsbuyit.com and subsequently announced his intention to invest €50 million in the company.The announcement caused the share value of Letsbuyit.com to jump,resulting in a €1.5 million profit for Schmitz. This is just _dumb money_. Also I dont see how this is different to many crypto marketeers today.

It's insider trading. I'm not sure if you're trying to defend him by comparing him to other con artists?

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Post by riehwvfbk »

stalfosknight wrote: post #442
stainablesteel wrote: post #118

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not really, his website was based on hong kong, this is a fight against america playing world police, which i'm on board with they have no business going after just a single man so fervently, he's a foreign national and the websites weren't based in the US

If not the US, then who do you suggest could plausibly lead (I would even say prop up) the free world and the global economy?

Every dictator always claims they are irreplaceable.

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Post by glitchc »

jenadine wrote: post #824
liamwire wrote: post #814

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It’s not nuts when you stop being intentionally obtuse and speak plainly: yes, child abuse material can be represented by a variety of mathematical means, but it’s abhorrent nature makes it morally correct for those laws to exist.

No child is being abused when someone play with weights on a model. "Abhorrent nature" is very subjective and relative.

It's that real child abuse may have been used to train those weights. This is mechanics vs virtue.

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Post by DonHopkins »

Takennickname wrote: post #787
philistine wrote: post #785

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> (Seems to already be the case in the UK) [Citation needed]

I googled it and found it.

I don't believe you, since you didn't bother to actually post what you found, when you directly responded to someone asking for a citation. Your comment is less than useful, and completely untrustworthy.

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Post by GJim »

hgfhfdg wrote: post #903
fnordian_slip wrote: post #863

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I've never understood that sentiment. The US has the second amendment, and it doesn't seem to do much for personal freedom there. Europe does not, and I feel a lot more free in most European countries than I do in the US, especially when it comes to encounters with representatives of the state (LEOs).

There was a twitter thread where someone from Russia said he was beaten up by police in Netherlands during a peaceful protest. He was accused of attending the wrong protest by twitter Europhiles. Now, something tells me it's easy to feel safe when you conform.

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Post by malwrar »

desas wrote: post #887
allarm wrote: post #873

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> Mp3s were yesterday literally long time ago And what do you think people use now to store their music offline?

I'm sure there's still a large number of people downloading mp3s and other files to permanently store. But really, how often are people offline? For me it's only when I'm on a flight, and I can prepare for that by using spotify or youtube and pressing the download button on a playlist.

> But really, how often are people offline?

I am when I am hiking, camping, or have poor reception like in my apartment complex. There are vast swathes of the globe that do not have connectivity at all.

Also, worth considering the online service could change its offering or die at any time. Songs I like are routinely removed from various online platforms, and it enrages me every time.

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