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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by snapcaster »

ActorNightly wrote: post #435
christianqchung wrote: post #119

"Donald Trump is going to win. And I'm OK with that." - Jared Golden, Democratic House Representative of Maine I really hoped it wouldn't be so, but anyone that's ever seen Kamala speak will find she is about as compelling as Joe Biden on a bad day. I believe this means China and Russia can prevail in the short term, unless he actually boosts Taiwan's defence meaningfully, which I doubt he will after the Ukraine/Isra…

Its really simple though. Do you want a dictator with near unlimited legal immunity in charge of the country? Thats what the November vote is for. Everything else is secondary.

At what point is it no longer my fault for not voting democrat? Is the democratic party responsible at all for putting up an appealing candidate? How many times can they bully us with fearmongering into voting for someone we dislike? What's the end game here? we just keep voting blue no matter who as things get worse and worse forever?

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by labcomputer »

tatrajim wrote: post #881
consultSKI wrote: post #874

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Term Limits. No real math is required. Senate: 1 Term. 6 years. Not able to then serve in the House. House: 2 Terms. 4 years. Not able to then serve in the Senate. 1 Term House + 1 Term Senate. 8 years total. Elect any LEGAL Citizen regardless of age.

Gives power to the permanent committee staff members and lobbyists who have institutional memory and social networks. No legislator could possibly understand all the nuances of policy with such short limits. Four terms, say, as a Senator and eight as a House member would be more practical.

Exactly this. California has enacted term limits and it hasn’t gone well.

Lobbyists run everything because the politicians are all too new. It also completely disincentivizes long-term thinking because the system guarantees they will be out of office by the time the chickens come home to roost.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by evgeniysharapov »

tiffanyh wrote: post #533

Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

Because it's ultimately a distrust of people. You do not trust people to realize that the candidate is old ? Where would you draw the line on limits? Age, IQ, gender, weight, height ? Of course, we should find the balance between all these limits and "intellect of the crowd".

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by lawn »

kypro wrote: post #500
tzs wrote: post #98

The Democrats now need to emphasize that Trump, who is 78, is too old too. They can feature clips of Trump in 2020 saying that Biden at 78 was too old.

I really dislike this idea that someone can be "too old" to be president. The issue isn't age, it's the conditions and diseases that often come with age. The issue with Biden for me wasn't his age at all, it was that for whatever reason he was struggling to form coherent sentences. Trump on the other hand seems more or less completely fine. I'd actually argue the best thing about Biden was that he was perhaps the mos…

> Trump on the other hand seems more or less completely fine.

No, he very clearly does not. He's rambling and incoherent.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by [deleted] »

adolph wrote: post #780
gumby wrote: post #32

One of the most effective presidents since Johnson or Truman. But he did campaign on a single term. Let’s hope the Dem’s circular firing squad puts down its guns so they can quickly concentrate on winning the election with someone … probably Harris is the simplest answer.

By not stepping down as president, he is totally RBG-ing Harris. Maybe a resignation will be announced later for maximum impact and tie into some thing ready for Harris to announce presidentially, like some camp david peacing or another 3 states ratifying the ERA.

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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by nativeit »

SllX wrote: post #840
RajBhai wrote: post #834

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Parties should be able to place age restrictions on the candidates. That can't stop an elderly candidate from running third party to spite the eligibility rules, but that's already the case.

Hypothetically, but parties are also incredibly weak right now. In California, we run an Open Primary system for every partisan office outside the POTUS so parties can’t even guarantee they’ll get a candidate into the general election even if they are otherwise eligible to put nominees forward and sometimes it’s Democrat vs Democrat (this has been happening for US Senate elections) or in some legislative districts Re…

I missed the part where you explain how Bernie Sanders is a meaningful analog to Donald Trump, such that his primary defeats should be hailed as “holding strong” against an insurgent candidate?

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Post by Perceval »

curt15 wrote: post #619
lisper wrote: post #603

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Airline pilots have a legally mandated retirement age of 65. Running the country seems like it's at least as mission-critical as flying a plane.

The president has a large support staff to keep the lights on most of the time. Unless the nation is physically under attack, the president's day-to-day job is probably physically less demanding than that of pilots. They have plenty of time for golf.

> Unless the nation is physically under attack, the president's day-to-day job is probably physically less demanding than that of pilots.

Having worked in the White House, this is 110% wrong. The Presidency is an extraordinarily demanding job. The cognitive demands and the and physical toll it takes on you is tremendous.

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Post by nativeit »

brnt wrote: post #864
jonp888 wrote: post #854

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That's a completely different situation. It's measurable biological certainty that reaction times as measured in milliseconds and fine motor control degrade with age. Vision and hearing also degrade. The nature of hands on control of flying a plane means there are no ways to compensate for this. None of this applies to a politician making decision in a time span of hours, days or months and who can delegate tasks as…

> That's a completely different situation. Yet Biden (and for some reason not Trump, who's well documented to have the same kind of senior moments but they rarely make it to the news) is raked over the coals for them all the same. Why do we ask the president to be able to walk a stairs, remember pointless ceremony, and all the other things that have nothing to do with performance in office (on which there has been ne…

Donald Trump doesn’t need to be nuanced, or even marginally informed, so his cognitive decline is hardly relevant to his role as Head Performatively Outraged Xenophobic Tax Cutter.

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Post by camdenreslink »

rldjbpin wrote: post #855

i understand the significance of this news for majority of the users here, but unsure if it fits the guidelines of what should be discussed here. > If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

I think there are exceptions allowed for major events (if only the keep all of the discussion in one place, preventing it from bleeding into the rest of the site).
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