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10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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> No one is opposed to the legal immigration of skilled workers. That is not true. If no one is opposing immigration of skilled workers then why getting a visa is a lottery?

If they opposed skilled immigration, there wouldn’t be a lottery at all, there would be 0 visas allocated.

To continue your thought: if they really opposed illegal immigration, there wouldn't be illegal migrants at all.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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I wonder what a sensible way forward for Cubans is, and their government. What would it take for the US to lift sanctions (I assume a radical shift within Cuba's government), and for Cuba itself (as a whole) to restructure their government in a way that would benefit them and everyone. Cuba would be a great travel destination. Their cigars aren't as on par anymore as far as I know, but there's potential there, Nicara…

> What would it take for the US to lift sanctions

If you understand the origin of the sanctions against Cuba, you know the answer to this question is that the US wants control over Cuba and their resources.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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In southern europe we call this "Brain drain". It's a global phenomenon it seems, freedom of movement leads to contentration of productive forces to a few global cities, while the rest of the planet is increasingly deserted

That should put pressure on the deserted areas to increase compensation or offer better CoL in return for production. Similarly, it increases demand on housing and other services in global cities, putting pressure on the workers to move to greener pastures. Of course none of this works as intended due to outsized govt. intervention and corruption.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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The US has been the the only major country sanctioning Cuba for a decade and a half, but the economy has only gotten worse. Sanctions may explain why they has lagged behind in tech. It doesn't explain why Cuba needs to import 70-80% of their food despite being a fertile tropical paradise. https://www.wfpusa.org/countries/cuba/#:~:text=Cuba%20import... .

> The US has been the the only major country sanctioning Cuba for a decade and a half Which is enough, as the US controls the emission of dollars, have monopolies over several technologies and, as it extends the sanctions even to the ships that trade in Cuba, disallowing them to enter in US, on practice it difficult trades between Cuba and any other country. > It doesn't explain why Cuba needs to import 70-80% of the…

If they're capable of 1950s era urbanism, they're capable of 1950s era agricultural technology. They get enough dollars from tourism and exports to purchase make up for what they don't have just like any other small nation. The are perfectly capable of growing tobacco and sugar. The problem is that the profit from non-cash crops is either too low like staple carbohydrates, or too variable, like fruits and vegetables to incentive farmers in a socialist country.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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> After spending a couple weeks in Cuba it’s not hard to see why. Which is the consequence of being sanctioned into oblivion for decades by the global hegemon, much to the dislike of the entire rest of the world.

OR. They lost a gamble. They picked Russia over the US and lost, big.

Khmmm... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mongoose

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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A bunch of Floridians who are, or are descended from, folks who had their land and businesses seized during the revolution are holding grudges and won’t let go of them until they’re given their stuff back or a ton of money, which, this far on, isn’t happening. Florida is important in Presidential elections. US elections are structured such that dumb stuff like a relatively small—but loud—and also hopeless interest in…

> US elections are structured such that dumb stuff like a relatively small—but loud—and also hopeless interest I can tell you, not just the US. See: farmers having an absolute chokehold on the EU despite virtually everyone hating them, and them only being a tiny percentage of population, votes or GDP.

Off topic but, I am curious, why would people hate the people that produce their food? Seems like a footgun position to take.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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I support immigration and oppose the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. For example, in this article is about white collar crime, it points out that many Somali-Americans were professionals back in Somalia. I'm not concerned about the crime because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency unt…

> I support immigration and oppose the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success.

If it's brain-drain you want, the Republican party's immigration plan seems superior, actually. The previous Republican administration attempted to replace our current lottery-based legal immigration program with a meritocratic, point-based system, but was blocked by the Democrat-led house.

True, Republicans would reduce legal immigration and greatly reduce illegal immigration, but if your specific issue is bringing in brains, which seems like a better haul? 100,000 young, English-speaking, elite scientists, academics and professionals from around the world? Or two million randos picked out of a hat?

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

#908

I support immigration and oppose the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. For example, in this article is about white collar crime, it points out that many Somali-Americans were professionals back in Somalia. I'm not concerned about the crime because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency unt…

> I'm not concerned about the crime You may not be concerned about the crime, but many voters are. The author of the article you linked to also exhorts the Somali immigrant community to not engage in crime. > because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency until the 2nd and 3rd generation is able to make it into established society. History and data from various European nations suggest that some immigrant groups…

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Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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I'm one of them, the Cuban dictatorship has gotten worse over years and more brutal, the cuban government is the enemy of its own people and asphyxiates any piece of freedom we have there. Is not the U.S or any other country but pure malice of the government that do not want to give up the power and sacrifices a whole country if necessary to remain there. The amount of ignorance (bought the dictatorship propaganda) and even malice of foreigners commenting about cuba here (because Cuba has been always the flag of the Left) is staggering.
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