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Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims

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Post by lovelyviking » Fri, Jan 05, 2024, 6:58 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #890

DiogenesKynikos wrote: post #889

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Having a plan on the shelf for how to invade is different from actually intending to invade. Israel not only had a plan to preemptively attack Egypt - it was very actively training for this plan and then carried it out. In contrast, it's fairly clear now that Egypt did not plan to invade Israel in June 1967, and was not in any position to do so. Like you, I've also read Benny Morris' Righteous Victims (which only has…

Righteous Victims has 2 whole chapters on the leadup to the Six Days War, which is like the centerpiece of the book. You can't be citing Righteous Victims, because it strenuously disagrees with virtually everything you've said here. What are you citing?

to avoid duplicating this ‘style of argument’ is summarised here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38831687

The only thing I wish to add is that this kind of “selectiveness” of facts by those who argue with Israel existence is by itself one of the main reasons for Israel creation in the first place.

Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims

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Post by arnavpraneet » Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 3:58 PM UTC

lelanthran wrote: post #826

bitcharmer wrote: post #690

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This is not a hyperbole. It's the current state of affairs

> This is not a hyperbole. It's the current state of affairs I should have been clearer. The GP claims that calling for the cessation of existence of an apartheid state is considered justified by the world. He's correct. Most of the world would consider it justified. But ... most of the world would not consider it justified to call for the cessation of existence of an entire country and, by extension, it's people. So…

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Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims

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Post by Sporktacular » Mon, Jan 08, 2024, 1:26 AM UTC

corimaith wrote: post #795

boston_clone wrote: post #791

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Desmond Tutu alleges "much like what happened to us black people in South Africa": https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/feb/06/southafrica.is... Irish President accuses Israel of war crimes: https://www.timesofisrael.com/with-irelands-sinn-fein-on-the... UN Representatives from South Africa, UK, and India author report on war crimes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Fact_Finding_Mi... Israel's Attorney…

Many of these examples have external or ideological reasons to do so though. Criticising Israel has no costs while supporting them has costs, but I would imagine that most of them are not going to put actual policy with consequences with that. If anything, they'd be more than enthusiatic to work with Israel when the question of a trade deal or security agreements come up.

"Criticising Israel has no costs while supporting them has costs"

It often carries a cost in domestic support. It carries trade costs as the US, Uk and others punish BDS, while no Arab countries impose secondary sanctions on countries that trade with Israel (as many themselves do). This is just untrue.