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Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Some perspective ... One developer (Ilya) vs. One businessman (Sam) -> Sam wins Hundreds of developers threaten to quit vs. Board of Directors (biz) refuse to budge -> Developers win From the outside it looks like developers held the power all along ... which is how it should be.

Money won.

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Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

#902

Some perspective ... One developer (Ilya) vs. One businessman (Sam) -> Sam wins Hundreds of developers threaten to quit vs. Board of Directors (biz) refuse to budge -> Developers win From the outside it looks like developers held the power all along ... which is how it should be.

Are you sure Ilya was the root of this.

He backed it and then signed the pledge to quit if it wasn't undone.

What's the evidence he was behind it and not D'Angelo?

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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With Sam coming back as CEO, hasn't OpenAI board proven that it has lost its function? Regardless of who is in the board, they won't be able to exercise one of the most fundamental of their rights, firing the CEO, because Sam has proven that he is unfireable. Now, Sam can do however he pleases, whether it is lying, not reporting, etc. To be clear, I don't claim that Sam did, or will, lie, or misbehave.

None of the theories by HNers on day 1 of this drama was right - not a single one and it had 1 million comments. So, lets not guess anymore and just sit back.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

#904

Some perspective ... One developer (Ilya) vs. One businessman (Sam) -> Sam wins Hundreds of developers threaten to quit vs. Board of Directors (biz) refuse to budge -> Developers win From the outside it looks like developers held the power all along ... which is how it should be.

There are three dragons:

Employees, customers, government.

If motivated and aligned, any of these three could end you if they want to.

Do not wake the dragons.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

#905

Some perspective ... One developer (Ilya) vs. One businessman (Sam) -> Sam wins Hundreds of developers threaten to quit vs. Board of Directors (biz) refuse to budge -> Developers win From the outside it looks like developers held the power all along ... which is how it should be.

Is your first “-> Sam wins” different than what you intended?

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Looks to me like, one pro-board member in Adam d Angelo, one pro Sam in Brett Taylor since they’ve been pushing for him since Sunday so I’m assuming Sam and rest of OpenAI leadership really like him and 1 Neutral in Larry Summers who has never worked in AI and is just a well respected name in general. I’m sure Larry was extensively interviewed and reference checked by both sides of this power struggle before they agr…

Larry Summers is the scary pick here. His views on banking deregulation led to the GFC, and he's had several controversies over racist and sexist positions. Plus he's an old pal of Epstein and made several trips to his island.

I assume Summers is there as a politically connected operative, to make sure OpenAI remains influential in Washington.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

#907

Some perspective ... One developer (Ilya) vs. One businessman (Sam) -> Sam wins Hundreds of developers threaten to quit vs. Board of Directors (biz) refuse to budge -> Developers win From the outside it looks like developers held the power all along ... which is how it should be.

seems like the union of developers is stronger than the company itself. hence why unions are so frowned upon by big tech corporate leadership

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

#908
All: there are over 1800 comments in this thread. If you want to read them all, click More at the bottom of each page, or like this: (edit: er, yes they do have to be wellformed don't they):

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38375239&p=2

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38375239&p=3

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38375239&p=4 (...etc.)

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

#909

If OpenAI remains a 501(c)(3) charity, then any employee of Microsoft on the board will have a fiduciary duty to advance the mission of the charity, rather than the business needs of Microsoft. There are obvious conflicts of interest here. I don't expect the IRS to be a fan of this arrangement.

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Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

#910

Some perspective ... One developer (Ilya) vs. One businessman (Sam) -> Sam wins Hundreds of developers threaten to quit vs. Board of Directors (biz) refuse to budge -> Developers win From the outside it looks like developers held the power all along ... which is how it should be.

$$$ vs. Safety -> $$$ wins.

Employees who have $$$ incentive threaten to quit if that is taken away. News at 8.

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