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NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by MichaelZuo »

lamontcg wrote: post #837
skrowl wrote: post #737

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NPR was, quite-literally created by an act of the United States congress. It receives DIRECT funding from the United States government. Twitter was generous in changing the label from "State-affiliated" media (given that it was literally created by the US Government) to "Government-funded media". There is no possible argument against the "Government-funded media" label that makes sense. They're government funded. NPR…

Corporations and institutions/foundations make up more than half of NPR's funding. And that exceeds the pledge drive funding, which collectively vastly exceeds the government funds they receive. When NPR runs their "ADM Supermarket to the World" spots, that is telling you who is really funding them and who to worry about exerting editorial control.

Any entity created by an Act of Congress is by definition affiliated with the federal government.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by MichaelZuo »

ghiculescu wrote: post #748
minsc_and_boo wrote: post #594

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Are you genuinely asking for examples, or are you just declaring your opinion in bad faith? NPR reports on DNC mishaps and criminals all the time: - https://www.npr.org/2017/11/16/564593737/sen-al-franken-accu... - https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/12/505309059... - https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/19/529119721... - https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/04/568336597... - https:/…

I don't have a strong view on this yet, but I think some links that are less than 5 years old would make your argument more compelling.

Agree, if there are not even 5 solid examples from the last 5 years, that's pretty suggestive.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by justin66 »

anonporridge wrote: post #509
jacquesm wrote: post #369

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Yes, and this gives their funders editorial control how?

If I'm giving you a regular flow of money that keeps you well fed and housed in a nice area, you're going to at least subconsciously care about how I perceive you and if I approve of the things you're doing, because I have the power to cut off that flow of money at any time. This is why many wealthy individuals and organizations donate to both political parties. The implicit threat of losing a flow of money you've be…

I think if you study this and read up on, for example, the Trump administration's attempts to turn VoA into a compliant propaganda outfit via the administration's control of USAGM, you might conclude that it's actually really hard to manipulate public media in this way. It's not a perfect system but it's pretty well designed.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by kaeresten_dit »

CobrastanJorji wrote: post #640
kaeresten_dit wrote: post #467

Seems like a funny reaction to a label added as a subtitle to an organization with the name National Public Radio People get attached to words or phrases without thinking about what they actually mean, seems like definitions get modified to emotionally herd the [un]imaginative/initiated Wild that style of thinking goes that high up the chain at NPR the CEO sounds child-like with their response

That's an odd reaction. Twitter is in a precarious state with both advertisers and media folks like reporters. Advertisers are concerned that Elon Musk has a tendency to hurt brands by taking unpredictable, rash action. Reporters are concerned that Twitter is becoming increasingly political. In a fit of conservative pique, Elon Musk took an umprompted pot shot at NPR by labeling it as "state-sponsored media," which f…

I guess it depends on who you think the platform is designed for, I believe it is designed first and foremost for the users' and their experience which is not to say advertisers and media don't have a place but they should not be driving the direction of what is ultimately a design decision

Being surprised Elon is meming is is like being surprised [normal thing happens] while the CEO of NPR saying "At this point I have lost my faith in the decision-making at Twitter," "I would need some time to understand whether Twitter can be trusted again." Has one semi-controversial decision against his org. and decides to pull everyone in that org. off it, especially a firm whose management is known for rapid iteration, as shown earlier today with f.ex. the BBC label being updated

However I do understand American's propensity for being sensitive to having any of their institutions having the same labels as the bad guys'

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by kaeresten_dit »

rozal wrote: post #840
harrelchris wrote: post #544

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Twitter defines state-affiliated media as: > outlets where the state exercises control over editorial content through financial resources, direct or indirect political pressures, and/or control over production and distribution. [1] This isn't an accurate description of NPR. The government has no control over the content. > NPR receives less than 1% of its direct funding from the federal government [2] Even Twitter re…

I can't stand NPR. It's always one sided and always the typical US propaganda. CSPAN is where it's at for raw politics.

The manuscripts make for excellent bedtime reading

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by bigtex88 »

kaeresten_dit wrote: post #467

Seems like a funny reaction to a label added as a subtitle to an organization with the name National Public Radio People get attached to words or phrases without thinking about what they actually mean, seems like definitions get modified to emotionally herd the [un]imaginative/initiated Wild that style of thinking goes that high up the chain at NPR the CEO sounds child-like with their response

It's a direct attack on the reputation and credibility of the organization from a man-child. Musk is targeting certain orgs and people because "hurr durr lolz I'm funny!" He's a troll.

I'm so glad that NPR is leaving Twitter. Many more will come. The world will be a better place when that cesspool is no longer bubbling.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by bigtex88 »

kylecordes wrote: post #424
mwsfc wrote: post #23

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Not at all ragequitting and not degrading to NPR. Staying on the platform tacitly implies NPR accepts the label ...which would be degrading, from their perspective.

I think people should be slower to act. Around the time they left, the label had already been improved to mention funding instead of affiliation. If they could just be a bit chill about it, is quite possible within a month it might have been replaced with a approximate-percentage-funding label, which should not be particularly offensive. Would be really slick to see all media accounts have company ownership / funding…

Or maybe they realize there's no benefit of being on Twitter anymore and they're not willing to take disrespect from a trollish man-child?

It's a pit of right-wing extremism and some of the most fawning sycophancy I've ever seen.

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