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Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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> "The industry is contracting," said Cook In other words, even Mac people don't feel an urge to upgrade their systems so often anymore. A slowdown of consumption, in these times of climate crisis, is nothing but good.

It used to be you basically had to upgrade your computer and smartphone to do anything at all with it in a few years. Not just run the latest programs, but to just browse the web at all. Now a days, we've plateaued on compute for basic consumer purposes at least.

I use a 2012 mac. It only shows its age when I try and run a game on it. Other than that, for writing code, for watching things, reading, browsing, emails, zoom, etc, its no slower than anything modern I could buy. I hear the fans and it gets hot but there's no lag or anything, and it boots in a minute with the ssd I put in a few years ago. I did have a new mac for a bit recently, but I went back to this one because it was clear there wasn't much of a point with my usage for how much it cost. No withdraw from retina either, because at the distance you use a laptop you can't see the pixels on the 2012 anyhow. Maybe I can get another 11 years out of it at this rate.

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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Outside of Peter Zeihan, I'm also utterly surprised that no one even brings up the demographics debate. Everyone has been so indoctrinated on the "we have too many people" propaganda that they haven't even realized how fast birth rates have dropped across the globe (and they're dropping even faster now). The demographics of Europe, China, Japan and S. Korea are all terminal at this point. Outside of UK, France, and t…

> AND a culture that's always willing to accommodate new people. Try getting a green card even as a trained European. Good luck :) Not that I'd ever be interested in living in the US. I prefer a country with a decent social security safety net and socialized healthcare. And where people can't just run around carrying guns. Spain is not perfect but I have way fewer things to worry about here. So I can relax and enjoy…

> And where people can't just run around carrying guns.

The number of non-cops I've seen openly carrying in public is... One.

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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Suicide is often included as a cause of death to intentionally distort this statistic: > From 2019 to 2020, the relative increase in the rate of firearm-related deaths of all types (_suicide_, homicide, unintentional, and undetermined) among children and adolescents was 29.5% If you control for this, and include rates of homicide using other means of destruction (i.e., explosives or knives), it starts to look a lot m…

I wouldn't consider that distortion. Its a significant problem that firearms are highly successful suicide on the first impulse. Children who try another means are much more likely to have a chance to contemplate if they really want to kill themselves.

I'm calling it a distortion, because it's often used as a dishonest portrayal of how prevalent gun violence is in the US. Usually by the media, who wants attention grabbing headlines, and don't really care how the numbers are manipulated to peddle to their readers' selection bias.

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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> America, meanwhile, has decent native birth rate No, it doesn't. It's about 1.8 and dropping, and most of the higher values in that group are from recent immigrants, which are also having fewer kids. Educated folks also have lower fertility rates. The US is basically a mirror of Western Europe in this regard: https://www.statista.com/statistics/226292/us-fertility-rate... > AND a culture that's always willing to ac…

>No, it doesn't. It's about 1.8 and dropping The OECD average is 1.67. America has a relative advantage Here's a dataset of various countries' fertility rates: https://splash-db.eu/dataset/population-indicators/

Yes, but much of the difference in the average is due to recent immigrants.

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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It really is hard for some people to understand, right? Mom makes X Prices go up Mom still makes X

Not true for retirees because Social Security gets inflation adjustments. Probably not true in general either except in stagflation.

How exactly is it not true for the working mom in my example?

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Xenophobia and racism prevents that

> Xenophobia and racism prevents that Huh? My understanding is the US scores lowest of any country on objective measures of both. Which country has less Xenophobia and racism? People throw out Canada often but I believe empirically that is false.

How is xenophobia measured empirically?

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

#907
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In my case, I feel that Apple has priced itself out of the EU market with the latest Macs and iDevices. The new base M2 Air begins at €1500 after taxes which is genuinely an absurd amount of money to ask for a device that comes with 8 GB and 256 GB of non-replaceable ram and ssd respectively. The cheapest iPhone 14 starts at a bit over €1000. My plan is to keep my entry-level M1 Air for a few more years and then I'm…

FWIW, macs are high quality and last a long time. My wife needed a laptop for class a year ago, so I gave her my old macbook pro 13 i bought in 2014. I also had a macbook air m1 for personal use, which I replaced recently with a macbook pro 14 m1, and planned to give my wife the air. She refuses the air bc she likes the old 13 so much, and she abuses the shit out of it. How often does a laptop go strong for 9 years?…

You are NOT running minikube on that 2017 MBP.

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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Not true for retirees because Social Security gets inflation adjustments. Probably not true in general either except in stagflation.

How exactly is it not true for the working mom in my example?

That's stagflation, which happened in the 70s.

Inflation usually means wages going up. Of course they don't all go up at the same time and people get shuffled around, which makes them really angry.

But low wage workers in the US have gotten significant pay raises since 2019. In fact, they're the only workers who are making more after inflation.

https://bcf.princeton.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Combine...

…This also means wealth and income inequality are down, which maybe people will be happy about.

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Does it matter what it costs Apple? The locksmith only takes ~5minutes to open a lock and yet...

Well yeah, it does matter. People aren't buying them at the current price point.

They aren't buying other laptops either. It's a market problem.

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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>1650EUR for a laptop that won't have enough ram to run the browser in two years. That did not have enough ram 3 years ago... the fact they are still trying to sell 8GB as an useful amount outside of extremely budget laptops is insane.

I understand the frustration with low RAM Macs. I really do. I primarily work on a 32gb M1 Max. But I bought a M2 Mini with base everything (8gb/256gb) and it is still absolutely killer for 99% of things. I do a lot of dev, gaming, and casual stuff. It plays WoW at 100fps, Dota, streams all my GFN games, and the swap is fine when doing web dev.

Agree that the M2 Mini base model for 499$ is utter dynamite for most tasks. You can tell folk that but if they don't want to listen shrug
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