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Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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He's now running a poll about when said accounts should be unsuspended. Then cancelled the poll. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603609278664712192

Is he capable of opening his mouth without lying? Which of these journalists doxxed his “real time location”?

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It's interesting that many are debating the value of this 'rule', when this action is blatant abuse of his powers to silence his critics. He has now a lengthy and growing history of this type of behavior, so it was 100% foreseeable. He could just come out and say that its his twitter and he can do what he wants, but no, because he also wants to be seen as a 'defender of free speech'. He acts like a-hole, but then exp…

Most of HN completely miss the intent of conventional doxxing rules and widely accepted privacy laws in most countries. - Public figures, like politicians, top businessmen, and so on don't get the same amount of privacy and protection as regular Joe. You can follow them and track them. If you have power and influence, you don't enjoy the same privacy protections as others. That's a really good principle to have. - El…

It's funny how this debate has shifted. Now that Elon owns twitter, it's Elon haters bringing up the law whereas before they were talking about how twitter can do what they want as a private company.

For my money, there's absolutely nothing wrong with twitter disallowing "person trackers". Legality aside, whether it's Elon Musk or Nancy Pelosi, the subtext of these trackers is creepy and threatening and banning them from some platform is fine.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is everyone up in arms for? This is a private company, so he can do whatever he wants. That is what everyone has been saying for years. I mean, it turns out they were wrong and Twitter was actually colluding with government agencies to bypass the first amendment. But censorship and targeted suspensions were defended tooth and nail by internet commenters. Is this a problem now only because people you like are tar…

Twitter is allowed to be run by jerks who ban people for any reason they want. The problem is that people like Musk have spent ages arguing that banning fascists is bad because free speech absolutism is an important value. It turns out that free speech absolutism was never actually a value they cared about - the only thing that matters is that their guy is the one choosing the bans. If people like Musk had instead ar…

Makes you wonder: for what reason did they actually care about banning fascists, if not for philosophical free speech reasons?

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It's interesting that many are debating the value of this 'rule', when this action is blatant abuse of his powers to silence his critics. He has now a lengthy and growing history of this type of behavior, so it was 100% foreseeable. He could just come out and say that its his twitter and he can do what he wants, but no, because he also wants to be seen as a 'defender of free speech'. He acts like a-hole, but then exp…

> It's interesting that many are debating the value of this 'rule', when this action is blatant abuse of his powers to silence his critics.

I think it’s you that’s missing the point here. It’s only abuse of power if the rule against doxxing is invalid. So it does come down to the rule and whether or not doxxing is acceptable. If we decide that doxxing is acceptable and posting anybody’s real-time location data is acceptable (without their consent), then he is abusing powers. If that is your conclusion, then you don’t have the right to complain should it happen to you. If you believe the opposite, that doxxing is unacceptable, then the rule should apply equally to everybody. Critics and journalists do not get a free pass to break the rules.

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Wait a minute, so did they dox him or not? One side says yes, the other says no, but no one produces the actual tweets.

I find it hard to believe a tech journalist would waste his time to report on Elon's whereabouts on twitter. His pals at the newspaper claim "he was reporting on the story". So perhaps he attached a screenshot of the doxing tweet? Seriously, this whole story is worthless without seeing the relevant tweets.

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> Update: Musk just weighed in on the suspensions, characterizing them as intentional. “Same doxxing rules apply to “journalists” as to everyone else,” he tweeted in a reply. > It’s worth noting that the policy these accounts violated, a prohibition against sharing “live location information,” is only 24 hours old. It seems like a good rule, but in this case the application of the rule seems less impersonal than it c…

"Elon Musk rages off Twitter Spaces" - https://youtu.be/znFNKlzuTSc

Wow… that was… bad. Worse than I expected and I have low expectations. That’s toddler level behavior.

One wonders why someone let him do that in the first place if that’s his state of mind. He’s clearly not surrounded himself with competent people.

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It remains very funny that he paid forty-five billion dollars for the privilege of humiliating himself daily with these petulant temper-tantrums. Amazing bit.

"An insecure narcissist buys a criticism factory" remains the best one-line summary of the situation.

Sauce: https://nitter.net/ben_schachterle/status/158989325534039244...>

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post #900

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of HN completely miss the intent of conventional doxxing rules and widely accepted privacy laws in most countries. - Public figures, like politicians, top businessmen, and so on don't get the same amount of privacy and protection as regular Joe. You can follow them and track them. If you have power and influence, you don't enjoy the same privacy protections as others. That's a really good principle to have. - El…

It's funny how this debate has shifted. Now that Elon owns twitter, it's Elon haters bringing up the law whereas before they were talking about how twitter can do what they want as a private company. For my money, there's absolutely nothing wrong with twitter disallowing "person trackers". Legality aside, whether it's Elon Musk or Nancy Pelosi, the subtext of these trackers is creepy and threatening and banning them…

The debate hasn't shifted. Everyone is pointing out his blatant hypocrisy and lies since taking ownership. He's allowed to do whatever he wants with Twitter. And the rest of the world is allowed to call out his hypocrisy every time we see it.

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He's now running a poll about when said accounts should be unsuspended. Then cancelled the poll. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603609278664712192

Updated poll with > 2.3 M votes: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603609466301059073

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post #896

It's interesting that many are debating the value of this 'rule', when this action is blatant abuse of his powers to silence his critics. He has now a lengthy and growing history of this type of behavior, so it was 100% foreseeable. He could just come out and say that its his twitter and he can do what he wants, but no, because he also wants to be seen as a 'defender of free speech'. He acts like a-hole, but then exp…

It's a comfort to me that the Constitution forbids him from running for president.

That is a mutable document.
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