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Re: The Twitter Files

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Politicians should never be able to directly influence the moderation of social media items they find politically unfavorable; I don't care which party does it. I can understand something that involves direct threats/calls to violence, but that's about it. Anyone that has used Twitter for some time knows the moderation was often not all that even, not just by pure political means but also threats of violence etc were…

Nude pictures of an individual being distributed without consent isn't politically unfavorable -- its criminal in many places and obscene everywhere.

The "laptop" story is a red herring for Trump's crimes and used to cover them up by making up a load of BS to give cover for Republican whataboutism.

What I find surprising is the defense many HN commentators are giving to this propaganda, especially those that try to say silliness like "Biden was installed!"

I'm neither Republican or Democrat -- I'm an equal opportunity cynic in relation to political parties -- and boy, has the GOP been taking advantage of that opportunity!

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post #118

It does not seem like this really exposed any new information - Twitter publicly justified its actions as being about its hacked data policy back when this all happened ( https://www.nationalreview.com/news/twitter-cites-hacked-mat... ). All this shows is some internal disagreement as to whether that was the right call. By the way, Facebook also suppressed the news story citing its misinformation policy ( https://www…

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598827602403160064 Biden team asking Twitter to "handle" tweets they don't like. This rubs me the wrong way, nobody in government should be telling Twitter to remove speech.

Biden wasn't in the government at the time though. Presidential candidate, sure but just a private citizen

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It does not seem like this really exposed any new information - Twitter publicly justified its actions as being about its hacked data policy back when this all happened ( https://www.nationalreview.com/news/twitter-cites-hacked-mat... ). All this shows is some internal disagreement as to whether that was the right call. By the way, Facebook also suppressed the news story citing its misinformation policy ( https://www…

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post #853

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> citing different policies that are obviously inconsistently applied Here's a better example: the Canadian trucker protests. GiveSendGo was hacked, and the names of people who had donated to the protests were made public - and Twitter had no problem with those "hacked materials" being shared on its platform. I'd think that if there was ever a reason to block the publication of hacked materials, it would be to preven…

Pretty much this. It’s a set of rules selectively applied depending on whether or not your political allies or opponents are on the receiving end. Taibbi leans left and I don’t but I like reading his articles (despite premises I may not agree with) because he’s at least honest in his arguments and doesn’t try to bury or twist inconvenient facts.

Glenn Greenwald really moved away from the left. Taibbi did too. Neither lean left any more and if anything lean the other way now. Both of them see what pays the bills now.

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How is this surprising? People get things resolved via Hacker News when people comment on CEO account comments (Stripe comes to mind). Nearly every company probably has direct lines of access for resolutions for VIPs, politicians not excluded.

Not surprising but sad. Politicians should be excluded from what you're talking about IMO. They're elected to serve the people and stand for our American beliefs including the freedom of speech. A political party (the DNC in this case) getting tweets removed probably isn't a 1st amendment violation. But it's really shady and anyone from government (the white house in this case) getting tweets removed is likely violat…

Now do Fox News and the GOP

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post #610

Why is this propaganda bullshit on the front page. I gotta ask about moderation on HN here. This is literally moderation, "the twitter files" my ass. They pretext political contributions and falsley connect legitimate moderation to that. Of course they should have blocked that story and still should. Oh, but get this, it's their platform they get to do what they want. They are not an impartial government agency. In t…

Because most of the moderation has given up as stories like this become more and more popular. It's easier to just let people burn out than delete it and be accused of being part of the FBI or whatever, even though it makes the problem worse because it becomes normalized here.

Like I will keep mentioning: This whole drama is partially based off the fact that people are complaining Twitter removed dick pics from twitter as a form of 'censorship'. I don't think dick pics belong anywhere on HN, but apparently people here disagree.

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> I agree, nothing we didn't know Some of us did know, that's true, but we were labeled as conspiracy theorists and the like. And when the truth came out in the open those calling us conspiracy theorists of course that embraced the "that has always been a known fact! What are you on about?". Rinse and repeat.

See I don't even know what the truth of the matter is because all the moderate voices on the subject were silenced so the only ones who persevered in their effort to be heard were the fringe lunatics.

Correct. These revelations (for some) are a win for moderates.

Jack Dorsey and Rho Khanna. That’s who benefitted the most.

Amazingly the democrats are upset about this. It tells me what I need to know about those people.

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> This rubs me the wrong way, nobody in government should be telling Twitter to remove speech. Uh... Biden wasn't in government. It's so weird seeing all the posters in this thread arguing simultaneously that The Real Problem here is government control over the media and citing as evidence the fact that Twitter bent to the whims of someone not in government . I mean, why is government control such a big deal when pri…

It's weirder to use the false equivalence to equate Biden with a typical private citizen. The typical private citizen does not have the same power to suppress stories on Twitter.

I'm sure every top account had this access too. Dril probably has direct access to the mod team.

Re: The Twitter Files

#910

It does not seem like this really exposed any new information - Twitter publicly justified its actions as being about its hacked data policy back when this all happened ( https://www.nationalreview.com/news/twitter-cites-hacked-mat... ). All this shows is some internal disagreement as to whether that was the right call. By the way, Facebook also suppressed the news story citing its misinformation policy ( https://www…

The "hacked data policy" mysteriously didn't apply to 100gb+ data dumps of competing social networks when it was politically expedient.

Some valuable context from an insider. Twitter, FB and others were given an explicit warning of a pending disinformation campaign by law enforcement ahead the laptop story breaking.

https://mobile.twitter.com/sparrowmedia/status/1598835976717...

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