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Post by senko »

prmoustache wrote: post #890
senko wrote: post #464

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Tesla dragged the rest of the auto industry, kicking and screaming, into the EV business. EV was, at best, a curiosity and definitely nobody's main focus, until Tesla first showed EV cars are not golf carts (with the rooadster) and then that they can be a desirable higher-class sedan (with Model S). If Tesla went bankrupt today, we'd still be firmly on the path to phase out ICE cars. This was totally unconcievable ju…

> Tesla dragged the rest of the auto industry, kicking and screaming, into the EV business. I would say that the advance in battery technology, the laws introduced by state of California and north european countries did more than Tesla ever did. Also the Renault Zoe, still top selling EV cars in europe, had her first concept car showed in 2005 and was on sale only 5 months after the Model S in 2012. The Leaf also pre…

Zoe was a concept car, as was VW eUp. At the time, established car companies were doing concepts that looked like golf-carts and taking about "e-mobility".

Look at i-Miev and the Roadster and tell me which one do you think a typical car lover would love more. If you think that would've taken over the car market .. then you're definitely not in the same circles I am :-)

Other car makers started paying serious attention only when Tesla inexplicably didn't go under and Model S started to be a success.

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Post by Blackstrat »

Traster wrote: post #84

So there's two options right - the first is that Parag is for some reason making big strategic decisions about the direction of the company despite the fact that we all know he'll be gone if the deal closes. Or he's making big strategic changes at the behest of the acquirers before the deal closes. Neither of these things seem particularly kosher moves to make. The question is how to figure out which one it is. It wo…

Third possibility is getting Musk to withdraw his offer. The article comments on missed intermediate growth targets. Musk has put the deal on holding pending proof that the user count is not inflated by fake accounts. So I see this all as an attempt by Parag to "save" the company from Musk and his goal to make it an open "free speech" platform.

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Post by samatman »

dehrmann wrote: post #841
samatman wrote: post #410

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This quirk of dialect should be called the California Superlative. Everything is awesome, amazing, radical, insane, great, gnarly, not to mention sick, ill, righteous, dope. Californians just love superlatives, use them constantly, wear them out, and need new ones. This spreads like a fine coating of mold over the rest of the country before going on to annoy the Commonwealth, and then we repeat. It's pretty cool.

Considering this is Norcal, you forgot hella.

Good point, and the place of hella in the dialect is hella distinctive, because it's a superlative modifier: hella sick, hella insane, "I just bought hella strawberries at the market", and so on.

So you have a politeness continuum from very, to hecka, to hella, to fuckin'. Which is dank.

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Post by itsoktocry »

trothamel wrote: post #354
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I am wondering what is in it for those people lining up - they are paying 20% over the market value to be locked in with musk.

Tesla is up 995% over the past 5 years.

And it's back to prices it was at in 2020.

Do you think more people bought Tesla 5 years ago, or in the past 1.5 years? Because the latter folks are underwater.

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Post by slibhb »

saxonww wrote: post #826
slibhb wrote: post #794

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> In short: yes, it's a good thing. As written, the amendment is designed to prevent me from being arrested or killed by the Federal Government for speaking my mind, disseminating my thoughts on paper, or congregating with like-minded people. You didn't say why . You restated the law. There are all kinds of arguments for free speech. I'll quote Mill: > First, if any opinion is compelled to silence, that opinion may,…

_Why_ is that the American colonists were very familiar with life in contemporary England, which had recently had a civil war over (among other things) religious freedom; the Pilgrims were mostly people who had fled England because of religious persecution. I believe you were risking a charge of treason to run your mouth about the King or members of the royal family. I guess I just assumed that the framers wanted to…

Your inability to come up with a solid reason why free speech is good is very telling. You don't think it's good!

And I'm tired of reading comments written by people trapped in a legalistic fiction where the only thing that people are obligated to do is follow the law.

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Post by kranke155 »

slibhb wrote: post #674
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> he was a democratically elected leader of arguably, the most influential nation in the world This aspect of the discussion around Twitter constantly baffles me. They have no obligation to offer service to anyone, and they have no obligation to ensure freedom of speech, balanced representation, or any other thing you can think of that would ensure everyone gets a voice. General, universal freedom of speech in the US…

Is the first amendment a good thing? If so, why? Does the reason you come up with magically not apply to twitter? Of course it applies. Twitter is not legally obligated to allow free speech but there are other reasons to do something than legal obligation.

1st amendment does not apply to private companies in my understanding.

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Post by kranke155 »

GaylordTuring wrote: post #809
munificent wrote: post #648

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> A rule I’ve learnt recently and really loved is - every community can be judged quickly by how comfortable women are in it. I've thought about this rule for many years. It applies equally well to offline real-world communities.

I would be careful using this rule. Women are, in general, most uncomfortable around weak/strange (but totally harmless) men. Bring your average woman to a Richard Stallman meet-up and then to a UFC match and ask her which setting she found most uncomfortable. I can guarantee you that Richard picking his own nose in a room full of sweaty needs will be more disturbing to her than being close to thousands of jacked-up…

If programmers are nice to her she won't be uncomfortable.

Lots of women will feel uncomfortable at a UFC fight. We're talking about communities, not some random event.

You just sound too red pilled to understand so.

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Post by shapefrog »

alvah wrote: post #691
shapefrog wrote: post #341

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I am wondering what is in it for those people lining up - they are paying 20% over the market value to be locked in with musk.

If you believe in Matt Levine's Elon Markets Hypothesis, paying 20% over market to be in close proximity to Elon's Twitter feed might be a bargain.

Seems an expensive bribe.

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Post by croes »

vkou wrote: post #640
croes wrote: post #624

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>like bots and the extremely hostile mob mentality There isn't a solution for these two.

There is, but it's called moderation when you agree with it, and censorship when you don't.

How many people would you need to monitor all tweets in all used languages?

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Post by HelloMcFly »

Gareth321 wrote: post #884
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> It's not, and it shouldn't be, and you should be ashamed of even thinking it. I didn't see the OP advocating for censorship, but for the enablement of moderation for unacceptable content within a community. Do you think LGBTQ spaces on reddit - for instance - should be prevented from banning users that compare them all to child molesters? Is that "censorship" that the OP should be ashamed of? Must all spaces be ent…

>I didn't see the OP advocating for censorship, but for the enablement of moderation for unacceptable content within a community. This is the same thing. Facilitating and encouraging the use of moderation policies which prohibit speech of users is censorship. I've often found that Americans confused "censorship" with "violating the Constitution." Most of us are not given Constitution protections because we don't live…

> This is the same thing. Facilitating and encouraging the use of moderation policies which prohibit speech of users is censorship.

You are using "censorship" as a big scary word when talking about generalities. I can't quite get a clear picture of what you actually believe. Come down to my level and talk specifics vs. generalities:

1) Do you think that individuals or communities creating a content-specific space for user interaction should not have any right or ability to moderate the content?

2) Do you think individuals or communities creating a space dedicated to specific interest, hobby, or lifestyle should have no ability to moderate that content?

3) Abstracting a level higher, should all space for user-generated conversation and content necessarily welcome all contributions? In other words, should everything goes, everywhere, in all communities where user interaction is invited? Or are you just arguing the point semantically?

I truly, sincerely understand the point you are making but I also have no idea what you're advocating for.

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