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Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to buy company

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Re: Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to buy company

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Post by honeybadger1 »

TomSwirly wrote: post #820
memish wrote: post #696

Some points from the All in Pod. 1. The Twitter board of directors has become a status thing. It's like a country club. They don't have real skin in the game; they don't own much stock. They're not aligned with the shareholders. It's about status and cultural power. 2. Why should we believe that the company will become more valuable when the stock price is where it was way back in December 2013? Compare to how the S&…

> One AI engineer from Tesla could solve Twitter's bot and spam problem. Translation: "AI is a magic spell! I can take someone who's been working on vision recognition, and they alone could wish all our bots and spams away, with the magic of AI." > The elites Oh, god, here comes the libertarian spiel... > but instead believe free speech, free discourse, and free thought are the instruments of repression. Translation:…

I am sure you are the life of the party.

Re: Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to buy company

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Post by andrepd »

dm319 wrote: post #870
nowherebeen wrote: post #830

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s important to also note that one of Musks strengths is marketing. He makes bold claims that makes headlines. We should be all used to his charade by now. A lot of the stuff he claims that actually works has teams of people supporting him. Those weren’t one man efforts like this.

I would upvote this as insightful if we were still on Slashdot. These one-man pioneers like to further the impression that they are the sole reasons for their success, but the reality is that we all build on the shoulders if giants. I am not shitting on his ability to make his endeavours successful - I am just saying that the proportion of his responsibility for it is much lower than most people think. I'm not sure w…

I would also mod your comment insightful ;) Egocentric individualism makes people forget that everyone, absolutely everyone, is indebted to people past and present, from his current fellow co-inhabitants of earth to the past generations all over the world that bequeathed him the world and the culture he inherited.

Re: Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to buy company

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Post by memish »

nowherebeen wrote: post #830
not2b wrote: post #184

Even before the poison pill was adopted, the evidence is the market wasn't taking Musk's offer seriously. That's because he was offering $54.20 per share (ha ha, 420), but the stock price never closed higher than $48.36. So almost $6/share was left on the table. Part of it is that Musk doesn't have $43B in cash, he'd have to raise it or borrow it. He's worth more than that but it isn't liquid; as an officer of Tesla…

It’s important to also note that one of Musks strengths is marketing. He makes bold claims that makes headlines. We should be all used to his charade by now. A lot of the stuff he claims that actually works has teams of people supporting him. Those weren’t one man efforts like this.

I see Tesla cars all over the place. I saw rockets take off from SpaceX.

What charade?

Also he often publicly thanks, congratulates and credits the Tesla and SpaceX teams. Here's a sample:

https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3A%40elonmusk%20%22team%22...

As you can see yourself, he's saying "great job team!" not "great job me!".

I just don't get all these olympic level contortions around denying the achievements of an immigrant who made good on the American dream, and has done more for climate change than literally anyone. This is to be celebrated and embraced!

Re: Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to buy company

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Post by newbamboo »

dm319 wrote: post #870
nowherebeen wrote: post #830

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s important to also note that one of Musks strengths is marketing. He makes bold claims that makes headlines. We should be all used to his charade by now. A lot of the stuff he claims that actually works has teams of people supporting him. Those weren’t one man efforts like this.

I would upvote this as insightful if we were still on Slashdot. These one-man pioneers like to further the impression that they are the sole reasons for their success, but the reality is that we all build on the shoulders if giants. I am not shitting on his ability to make his endeavours successful - I am just saying that the proportion of his responsibility for it is much lower than most people think. I'm not sure w…

Ad hom is pushed by the media because “small minds talk about people,” and that sells ads/clicks. Another example beyond personal fanboyism is the vilification of a person which surpasses rationality. Or the vilification of other groups of people. In all of these you will see fundamental attribution error, ignoring the situational factors and placing all perceived agency on the individual, like most all of our media were doing from 2016-2020. The reality is, few humans are all that important in and of themselves, and those that are often have become so as the result of external factors like the quality of the people that surround them, or “luck.”

Re: Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to buy company

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Post by andrepd »

itsoktocry wrote: post #851
paisawalla wrote: post #733

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We're not talking about the hardest content problems on the internet. Look at any of Elon Musk's (or anyone in crypto's) popular tweets and you'll see a flood of incredibly obvious bots that poorly mimic his account, spamming some shit coin or advertising a BTC address. Also, you're really understating how good Tesla self-drive is. It's not full self-drive but it's a real achievement.

> Also, you're really understating how good Tesla self-drive is How good is it?

It's so good that Tesla sued people for posting videos where it fails miserably. Really screams "confidence", doesn't it?

Re: Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to buy company

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Post by ljm »

outsb wrote: post #840
ehsankia wrote: post #716

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To think that a company that has failed to create self-driving for nearly a decade could solve "content moderation", one of the hardest problem on the internet that every single of the big companies (who btw hire the best talent) have been struggling with, is truly a shocking statement to me. If all Google and Facebook couldn't solve it, why could a Tesla engineer of all people...

Spamming "$$$ $TSLA to the moon! Get latest tips on my free Discord bit.ly/ocozxc #TWTR #GOOG #AMC #GME $$$" thousands of times for days before suspension is hardly the hardest problem on the Internet Heck, you could even just limit the number of hashtags in a single tweet (say, 2) and fix 95% of Twitter's spam problem without harming legitimate users in any way

Supposing it really was that simple, 5% would still comprise a large number of tweets.

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Post by JaimeThompson »

memish wrote: post #903
nowherebeen wrote: post #830

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s important to also note that one of Musks strengths is marketing. He makes bold claims that makes headlines. We should be all used to his charade by now. A lot of the stuff he claims that actually works has teams of people supporting him. Those weren’t one man efforts like this.

I see Tesla cars all over the place. I saw rockets take off from SpaceX. What charade? Also he often publicly thanks, congratulates and credits the Tesla and SpaceX teams. Here's a sample: https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3A%40elonmusk%20%22team%22... As you can see yourself, he's saying "great job team!" not "great job me!". I just don't get all these olympic level contortions around denying the achievements of an…

FSD, Starlink never being jammed in Ukraine, Tesla Solar Roofs, and other such things are all things Musk has hyped up that are somewhat counter factual.

Why does it matter where he came from?

Re: Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to buy company

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Post by tempest_ »

memish wrote: post #903
nowherebeen wrote: post #830

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s important to also note that one of Musks strengths is marketing. He makes bold claims that makes headlines. We should be all used to his charade by now. A lot of the stuff he claims that actually works has teams of people supporting him. Those weren’t one man efforts like this.

I see Tesla cars all over the place. I saw rockets take off from SpaceX. What charade? Also he often publicly thanks, congratulates and credits the Tesla and SpaceX teams. Here's a sample: https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3A%40elonmusk%20%22team%22... As you can see yourself, he's saying "great job team!" not "great job me!". I just don't get all these olympic level contortions around denying the achievements of an…

Aha is the American Dream be born to well off parents and emigrate to dodge a draft now?

Re: Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to buy company

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Post by andrepd »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #868
emodendroket wrote: post #728

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> The elites have somehow inverted history so they now believe that it is not censorship that is the favored tool of fascists and authoritarians, even though every fascist and despot in history used censorship to maintain power, but instead believe free speech, free discourse, and free thought are the instruments of repression. It feels a little silly to act like the guy trying to spend billions of dollars to get his…

So what? .... if we, normal people get more free speech, and a few billionares swap some money around, it's still better then them just swapping money and we not getting any free speech.

What makes you think you will get any more free speech by the grace of Musk's intervention? He has repeatedly shown he is pro-free speech that he likes and anti-free speech he doesn't like.

Re: Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to buy company

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Post by ehvatum »

JaimeThompson wrote: post #907
memish wrote: post #903

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see Tesla cars all over the place. I saw rockets take off from SpaceX. What charade? Also he often publicly thanks, congratulates and credits the Tesla and SpaceX teams. Here's a sample: https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3A%40elonmusk%20%22team%22... As you can see yourself, he's saying "great job team!" not "great job me!". I just don't get all these olympic level contortions around denying the achievements of an…

FSD, Starlink never being jammed in Ukraine, Tesla Solar Roofs, and other such things are all things Musk has hyped up that are somewhat counter factual. Why does it matter where he came from?

Because he’s an immigrant that made good on the American dream. That’s a powerful thing - some might even dare say, inspiring.

I realize he’s white, so it doesn’t count, but it should.

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