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Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by cblconfederate »

chrisvalleybay wrote: post #772

You know what? This is lame. The whole presentation. The communication. The products. The way the story is being told by someone that's clearly way out of touch. For the first time it feels like they can be challenged. And not just Facebook; Apple as well. Google too. This is lame. Out of touch. Innovation might not be stagnating technically, but they sure are stagnating socially. It will be interesting to see what a…

Yeah i got that feeling that this was way too fake to be genuine. Either they were doing that demo just to distract people from their other criticism, or they are actually becoming obsolete.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by gulbrandr »

minimaxir wrote: post #2

The rebrand was introduced as a "One More Thing" during the event keynote. A 2007 "One More Thing" was the announcement of the iPhone and the future of mobile computing. Now a 2021 "One More Thing" is the announcement of a company rebrand to avoid government regulation.

> to avoid government regulation

Could you elaborate on that please?

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by a_ba »

Never mind the metaverse. Given that facebook (meta) is in the business of selling your meta-data to the highest bidder, the name appears to be spot-on.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by cblconfederate »

jay_kyburz wrote: post #744

The thing I don't understand about the Metaverse is, if it was going to be any good, we would have it now with mouse, keyboard, and a nice big 4k monitor. _What you do_ in the metaverse doesn't really have anything to do with goggles you strap on your face. The goggles are just supposed to improve the immersion. If Facebook wants to make this work they need to get into the business of making multiplayer games for eve…

We have it already since 20 years ago. Second life was the most talked about, at some point companies and governments were setting up virtual offices there. But it s become niche , and the company behind it is brain dead. I don't know why facebook pretends it invented this stuff. VR glasses are nice and new, but don't make such a huge difference as people think. In fact they are very constrained in terms of what you can do in world

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by checkyoursudo »

arduinomancer wrote: post #534
micromacrofoot wrote: post #455

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If what they're doing now is any indication, I don't think they'll succeed with it anyway. They've got almost zero credibility with anyone under 30. Their existing prototypes are outrageously embarrassing. I'm the kind of person that has a hard time watching The Office because I feel second-hand embarrassment, and I can barely make it a minute in to any of their VR demos. They're so uncanny, awkward, and embarrassing…

> They've got almost zero credibility with anyone under 30 I'm not a fan of facebook either but this is simply not true. https://www.statista.com/statistics/376128/facebook-global-u... Even putting Facebook aside Oculus is dominating the VR space due to cheap hardware, which I would bet is a ton of https://www.statista.com/statistics/265018/proportion-of-dir... My point here is consumers don't _actually_ care about c…

>> They've got almost zero credibility with anyone under 30

> I'm not a fan of facebook either but this is simply not true.

I'm not sure that you can equate demographics and usage statistics to feelings about credibility. For example, I use a certain world-eating online retailer/marketplace a few times per year, but never for anything where I think there is a reasonably high chance that I would be purchasing counterfeit goods, because of my concerns about credibility.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by sytelus »

apexalpha wrote: post #890
sytelus wrote: post #881

My worry is that they are not thinking about how many ways this can go wrong. There are already iPhone apps that allows you to put on avatar and meet people in a 3D virtual world. According to DoJ these apps are haven for pedophiles. Nothing good happens in these apps. People with severe mental issues show up, try to hit up others and eventually end up destructing real lives. Initially, everything looks safe because…

According to DoJ these apps are haven for pedophiles. Nothing good happens in these apps. People said the same about the internet itself, then social media, then tinder, then tiktok. Honestly, people and government just put "haven for pedo's" on everything they don't like.

Internet has good things and bad things but on these apps there is nothing good happens. I can imagine may be VR will be used to celebrate gradma's 90th birthday by her entire family virtually. But from what I can see, these will be about 1% to 2% of use cases. I don't think designers would intentionally encourage it but if you make meth legal, how many would actually use it for medical reasons?

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Post by cblconfederate »

legohead wrote: post #556

Everyone keeps saying metaverse, but meta makes me think of metadata, which is about the worst name they could have chosen. "Are you worried about FB storing all your data? Okay, lets rename to a word that is about scooping up all relevant data."

Meta (TM): All your data are belong to us. That's why it's called metadata

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Post by cblconfederate »

Dowwie wrote: post #403

Often, Hacker News sentiment winds up terribly wrong. With that in consideration, Metaverse will probably be huge and is worth considering. Is it going to be a walled garden? To what extent will it be open?

Facebook has a history of keeping their platform very open. Their first facebook platform was too open by today's standards (though normal-open by that day's standards). He said so in the video, and i m fairly sure he will keep it as open as possible and try to make open standards.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by cblconfederate »

wolverine876 wrote: post #554

Meta-comment: Corporate press releases are poor OPs; it is only the facts and spin they want to present, rather than good journalism which covers more facts, other analysis, multiple points of view. It's similar to the reason that Wikipedia doesn't allow primary sources (last I knew), only secondary ones. The primary source has a strong bias and can say anything.

there isnt a lot to write about as people have not seen it yet. Generic pontification about the metaverse is as old as the internet.
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