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Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

#901

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This is not completely accurate. The whole reason a registrar with domain abc.com can use ns1.abc.com is because glue records are established at the registry, this allows a bootstrap that keeps you in from a circular dependency. All that said it’s usually a bad idea, for someone as large as Facebook they should have nameservers across zones ie a.ns.fb.com b.ns.fb.org c.ns.fb.co Etc…

There is always a step which involve to email the domain when a domain update its information with the registrar. In this case, facebook.com and registrarsafe.com are managed by the same NS. You need these NS to query the MX to send that update approval by email and unblock the registrar update. Glue records are more for performance than to make that loop. I'm maybe missing something but, hopefully they won't need to…

This is not true when your the registrar (as in this case) in fact your entire system could be down and you’d still have access to the registries system to do this update

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

#903

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I don’t know how true it is but a few reports claim employees can’t get into the building with their badges.

I've heard on Blind this is unrelated, more of a Covid restriction issue.

What is Blind? Or shouldn't I ask?

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

#904
tracert 129.134.30.12

Tracing route to a.ns.facebook.com [129.134.30.12] over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  eehub.home [192.168.1.254]
  2     3 ms     3 ms     3 ms  172.16.14.63
  3     *        5 ms     3 ms  213.121.98.145
  4     5 ms     3 ms     4 ms  213.121.98.144
  5    17 ms     8 ms    18 ms  87.237.20.142
  6     8 ms     6 ms     7 ms  lag-107.ear3.London2.Level3.net [212.187.166.149]
  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9     7 ms     7 ms     6 ms  be2871.ccr42.lon13.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.58.185]
 10    70 ms    69 ms    70 ms  be2101.ccr32.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.82.38]
 11    73 ms    73 ms    74 ms  be3600.ccr22.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.0.221]
 12    84 ms    85 ms    84 ms  be2879.ccr22.cle04.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.29.173]
 13    90 ms    90 ms    90 ms  be2718.ccr42.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.7.129]
 14   143 ms   142 ms   143 ms  po111.asw02.sjc1.tfbnw.net [173.252.64.102]
 15   114 ms   119 ms   114 ms  be3036.ccr22.den01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.31.89]
 16   125 ms   126 ms   124 ms  be3038.ccr32.slc01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.42.97]
 17    91 ms    92 ms    91 ms  po734.psw03.ord2.tfbnw.net [129.134.35.143]
 18    91 ms    93 ms    90 ms  157.240.36.97
 19    74 ms    74 ms    73 ms  a.ns.facebook.com [129.134.30.12]
Trace complete.

this is what i got now

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

#905
tracert 129.134.30.12

Tracing route to a.ns.facebook.com [129.134.30.12] over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  eehub.home [192.168.1.254]
  2     3 ms     3 ms     3 ms  172.16.14.63
  3     \*        5 ms     3 ms  213.121.98.145
  4     5 ms     3 ms     4 ms  213.121.98.144
  5    17 ms     8 ms    18 ms  87.237.20.142
  6     8 ms     6 ms     7 ms  lag-107.ear3.London2.Level3.net [212.187.166.149]
  7     \*        \*        \*     Request timed out.
  8     \*        \*        \*     Request timed out.
  9     7 ms     7 ms     6 ms  be2871.ccr42.lon13.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.58.185]
 10    70 ms    69 ms    70 ms  be2101.ccr32.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.82.38]
 11    73 ms    73 ms    74 ms  be3600.ccr22.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.0.221]
 12    84 ms    85 ms    84 ms  be2879.ccr22.cle04.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.29.173]
 13    90 ms    90 ms    90 ms  be2718.ccr42.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.7.129]
 14   143 ms   142 ms   143 ms  po111.asw02.sjc1.tfbnw.net [173.252.64.102]
 15   114 ms   119 ms   114 ms  be3036.ccr22.den01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.31.89]
 16   125 ms   126 ms   124 ms  be3038.ccr32.slc01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.42.97]
 17    91 ms    92 ms    91 ms  po734.psw03.ord2.tfbnw.net [129.134.35.143]
 18    91 ms    93 ms    90 ms  157.240.36.97
 19    74 ms    74 ms    73 ms  a.ns.facebook.com [129.134.30.12]
Trace complete.

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

#906

There's still no connectivity to Facebook's DNS servers: > traceroute a.ns.facebook.com traceroute to a.ns.facebook.com (129.134.30.12), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 dsldevice.attlocal.net (192.168.1.254) 0.484 ms 0.474 ms 0.422 ms 2 107-131-124-1.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net (107.131.124.1) 1.592 ms 1.657 ms 1.607 ms 3 71.148.149.196 (71.148.149.196) 1.676 ms 1.697 ms 1.705 ms 4 12.242.105.110 (12.242.105.110)…

Can someone explain why it is also down when trying to access it via Tor using its onion address: http://facebookwkhpilnemxj7asaniu7vnjjbiltxjqhye3mhbshg7kx5t... Or when trying ips directly: https://www.lifewire.com/what-is-the-ip-address-of-facebook-... I would have expected a DNS issue to not affect either of these. I can understand the onionsite being down if facebook implemented it the way a thirdparty would (a p…

You can get through to a web server, but that web server uses DNS records or those routes to hit other services necessary to render the page. So the server you hit will also time out eventually and return a 500

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

#907

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You mean the same problem as when GMail goes down and Googlers can't reach each other? I guess good decentralized public communication services could solve those issues for everybody.

Anyone remember the 90s? There was this thing called the Information Superhighway, a kind of decentralised network of networks that was designed to allow robust communications without a single point of failure. I wonder what happened to that...?

Aren't we still communicating on HN, even though the possibly largest network is down? Can you send email?

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

#910

There's still no connectivity to Facebook's DNS servers: > traceroute a.ns.facebook.com traceroute to a.ns.facebook.com (129.134.30.12), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 dsldevice.attlocal.net (192.168.1.254) 0.484 ms 0.474 ms 0.422 ms 2 107-131-124-1.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net (107.131.124.1) 1.592 ms 1.657 ms 1.607 ms 3 71.148.149.196 (71.148.149.196) 1.676 ms 1.697 ms 1.705 ms 4 12.242.105.110 (12.242.105.110)…

DNS is back, looks like systems are still coming online.
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