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Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by jefftk »

undecisive wrote: post #900
jefftk wrote: post #351

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the push a while back to rebrand laptops as "notebooks" - because many laptops (esp Dell XPS) are not built with a strong enough backbone to keep their own weight from sagging in the middle, and because they get hot enough to cause damage to legs. This wasn't a rebranding, it was a category of laptop. Cheap, small, and light, designed for people who intended to offload many local functions to the cloud. -- https://…

Afraid Netbook and Notebook are two very different categories. Had a couple of netbooks in my time, they were pretty good for what they were. But no, I'm talking about full-blown 15-17 inch laptops that were so poorly built that if you tried to rest them on your lap, the trackpad would stop working, or keys on the keyboard would randomly press, and repeated lap-use would make it worse over time.

Sorry, I'd completely missed that you wrote "notebook"!

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by Nexxxeh »

gambiting wrote: post #876
naikrovek wrote: post #808

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it is a bit messed up that you think it's me. I change configs on these things only enough to get them to function, and then I leave them alone. and what exactly could I be doing to cause random DNS failures, or to cause DHCP to fail only on Ethernet ports? these things can't be configured to do that. they're consumer-grade routers and consumer-grade routers are garbage. all of them. every enterprise router or access…

I know it's just an anecdote, but I've always had issues buying(very expensive) home routers from netgear or Linksys, super unreliable devices no matter the price - finally gave up and just started using my ISP provided router(BT whatever hub, latest one) - zero issues. Rock solid WiFi and ethernet. I can see the uptime on it right now is over 100 days and I have no reason to restart it. Yes it's not quite as configu…

It just works when it works.

Static devices (as opposed to DHCP reservations) will just (seemingly) randomly stop working with port forwarding, as the router just forgets the device. You can shake it out of that by pinging the device from the router's diag tools, or power cycling the router resolves the issue. Not great for CCTV DVRs/NVRs.

"Smart setup" sometimes breaks stuff, especially IoT stuff.

Your device may or may not just randomly factory reset itself. (I've had one do it twice in three years, to the point where I now save the config.)

It may or may not completely ruin your Sky Q system's reliability if you have more than one box (although I generally advocate wiring them in completely and disabling all wireless functionality anyway).

The automatic channel setting for the WiFi channels is a total dice roll.

The DNS interception rubbish breaks stuff. Most recent example was I was having infuriating issues with Ubiquiti's AP guest portal... Until I switched the BT Business Hub into a dumb modem and put a cheap ER-x in front. Rock solid since.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by rsanek »

masto wrote: post #799
shbooms wrote: post #760

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there is, sort of, but it's got one or two extra steps (and most folks probably don't know it exists). 1. Press Cmd+Option+Escape to bring up the Force Quit menu 2. Press Cmd+A to select all running apps 3. Click the "Force Quit" Button to force quit all apps

And then it doesn’t work, so after half an hour of staring at a grey screen, you give up and hold down the power button.

Why wait at all in that case and not just hold down the power button right away?

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by CRConrad »

userbinator wrote: post #749
tablespoon wrote: post #515

> All newer Dell laptops now use the Microsoft Modern Standby. So let me guess: "modern" here is indicates a shitty new thing that doesn't work as well as the old thing. ...after further reading, yep: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/dev... > On occasion, the system stays in the active mode (with the screen off) for a longer interval of time. These longer active intervals occur for a variety o…

So let me guess: "modern" here is indicates a shitty new thing that doesn't work as well as the old thing. Funny how the software industry has managed to turn the connotation of "modern" for me from "neutral/slightly positive" to "definite negative" in around a decade.

Same here. Hey, one positive: It shows that, greybeard as I am, I'm still able to adapt to changing circumstances. (Well, at least circumstances changing over the course of a decade or so; no guarantee for anything faster than that.)

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by naikrovek »

sgarland wrote: post #837
naikrovek wrote: post #726

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I have a $300 Ubiquiti Dream Machine and that thing CANT be scheduled to reboot. doesn't matter because Ethernet dies twice a day, and I need to use my phone to get to the admin page to restart the thing. most annoying and expensive router I've ever owned. I DO NOT understand how all routers I have ever owned are total garbage, but they all have been.

A child comment stating its sensitivity to power dips may be the cause here. I don't have a UDM, but I do have a lot of Unifi equipment and the only issues I've ever had are an AP dropping clients and refusing to pick new ones up, and a switch latching onto a bad local route and refusing to let it go. Rebooting the devices fixed it in both cases. By far, internet connectivity has never been better at my house. I've h…

I think you were right. after reading your comment, and the other you mentioned, I ordered a small UPS that will shield my modem and router from transient power problems, and while it hasn't been a full day, yet, I haven't had to reboot anything since I installed that guy.

so far I am quite glad that I mentioned my problem here.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by naikrovek »

fegu wrote: post #786
naikrovek wrote: post #726

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a $300 Ubiquiti Dream Machine and that thing CANT be scheduled to reboot. doesn't matter because Ethernet dies twice a day, and I need to use my phone to get to the admin page to restart the thing. most annoying and expensive router I've ever owned. I DO NOT understand how all routers I have ever owned are total garbage, but they all have been.

Some routers (and other electronics) are very sensitive to short spikes or drips in mains power. Having some heavy duty stuff such as heating cables or water heater or tumble dryer on the same circuit is enough. Get equipment to monitor it.

I got a small UPS and it seems to be doing the trick. thank you!

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by naikrovek »

naikrovek wrote: post #906
fegu wrote: post #786

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some routers (and other electronics) are very sensitive to short spikes or drips in mains power. Having some heavy duty stuff such as heating cables or water heater or tumble dryer on the same circuit is enough. Get equipment to monitor it.

I got a small UPS and it seems to be doing the trick. thank you!

I was wrong. different problems now, not the "it just works" result I was hoping for.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by pxc »

ayushnix wrote: post #842
fulafel wrote: post #802

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Linux has reliable sleep on many more laptop models than mac os. But the rule is that you need to buy known good hardware that supports Linux to have a frictionless experience. (Yes this means you often have to buy something that's been on the market for a bit of time already.) Anecdotally I've had less sleep problems than mac-using coworkers, over a long time and many laptops.

> you need to buy known good hardware What is this "known good hardware"? I was thinking of somehow getting my hands on the FrameWork laptop since everyone and their mother keep singing praises about it but going through its forums makes it clear that it also doesn't do suspend and resume reliably. I've already seen plenty of people reporting that their AMD laptops don't do suspend resume and break with every new ker…

> What is this "known good hardware"?

Any hardware that ships with Linux, for a start. For another, anything whose quirks are documented on a popular community site (e.g., the Arch Linux Wiki).

It's important to choose a distro release a little bit newer than the hardware.

The Framework is brand new and doesn't ship with Linux, so I wouldn't expect it to be a trouble-free experience.

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