They had me at electric, lost me at connected.
2022 Ford F-150 Lightning
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#902I'm sure this image is heavily photoshopped, but it looks like they're trying to make a center console that's half touch screen, half physical controls. I wonder what that will look like in reality. https://www.ford.com/is/image/content/dam/vdm_ford/live/en_u...
My Mercedes has this. Except the knob isn't on the screen, it's where the right hand would rest.
In my humble opinion, It's superior to touch screen experiences, at least while driving the vehicle. That said, dedicated knobs (such as a knob for a/c) are still the best for some things.
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#903Ironically, the frunk on electric trucks is a game-changer. Complementing the bed with an enclosed, waterproof, secure place to carry things (and no mucking around with insecure bed covers) is a killer feature. No more springing for a crew cab just to carry groceries in the rear seats. In terms of practical carrying capacity this dominates an SUV.
Trucks are more dangerous to pedestrians because of the higher and flatter front--means people end up underneath rather than above if they are struck. I understand why they kept the look the same and why they used that space but in the future would prefer that they made changes to make it safer for everyone and not just the occupants. The high hoods make for poor visibility around the front.
especially more dangerous when they've been retrofitted with even higher steel off-roading bumpers.
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Thank you. As a cyclist and pedestrian (who does own a normally-sized car), I was getting pretty frustrated by the lack of safety discussed in the comments. https://twitter.com/lloydalter/status/1395326192908218371?s=...
I agree this is less safe for pedestrians, which matters in cities, but it is maybe safer in rural areas? I'd much rather hit a deer or moose going 80 in a tall truck then a short truck. Also, in my experience, people drive much slower in smaller towns, and are therefore less likely to hit a pedestrian or cyclist. Plus the added visibility is nice and certainly would increase safety, I would think.
> but it is maybe safer in rural areas?
People walk in rural areas, too; and those roads are often not designed for it and these accidents tend to happen at night. There's a significant percentage of pedestrian deaths that happen out of the city under these circumstances.
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#905I gotta say, I am very impressed by what I've seen with the F-150. It's clear that a LOT of thought has gone into this product and Ford clearly understands their target audience extremely well. There are so many nice features that are so well tailored to folks who buy trucks. All the features to power job sites, etc is really sweet and I can totally see that being super handy. Heck, it would make it super easy to wor…
I could legitimately see every job site having at least one as a rolling power station. That could be a very useful and popular niche, construction sites without power at early phases of construction aren't rare and power tool batteries are expensive.
> That could be a very useful and popular niche
Perhaps.. but we'll have to see how the battery holds up under extremely hot or cold conditions to really know if it will be used that way; and few people will want to be stuck at the job site after the end of the day.
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Why do you think the F-150 Lightning will be cheaper to repair than the Cybertruck?
Cybertruck is unpainted (or varnished) stainless, isn't it? Means that you can't fix small dents with filler, have to swap panels instead.
Doesn't unpainted stainless mean you don't really need to fix small dents, no rust issues?
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Oh yeah, I'm totally into that. It's perfect for a grocery run and you don't need to do anything to keep it from rolling around the bed of the truck or get rained on.
Taking a pickup for a grocery run is like using a jackhammer to push in a thumbtack.
Good thing we live in the USA and can drive whatever we want to the store.
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> I have a 2004 Toyota Tacoma that I love, and it would be amazing with a frunk, but you can't really get small pickups that size anymore You're not kidding! I was in the market for a small pickup and checked out the Tacoma and Frontier, which I previously understood to be "small" trucks. They're massive these days, just like the F-150! I guess it's perceived that there's no market for that size any more. A small ele…
What we need is an electric Subaru Brat.
Funny, I’m building just that! https://www.instagram.com/bratindustries/
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Every single near-miss I've had while walking in Minneapolis has been due to the driver not paying attention. There wasn't a single time it was due to lack of visibility from inside the vehicle. My yelling at one driver who was staring at her phone while driving out of a parking ramp and across the sidewalk where she nearly hit me, probably woke her up enough to avoid driving into traffic and being hit by a bus! No,…
News articles[0] vs. anecdote [0] https://www.wthr.com/article/news/investigations/13-investig...
This article states that forward blind spots account for 30-60 pedestrian fatalities each year. Rear blind spots are 5-10x deadlier. I would prioritize backup cameras.
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#910Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ford also hasn't sold that many EVs (yet), so it's still eligible for the US $7500 federal tax rebate (unlike Tesla). (BTW: It seems like such an arbitrary and ultimately bad decision to cap rebates by manufacturer. Rebate caps for expensive luxury cars? Sure. But penalize a manufacturer for making _too many_ of the thing you're incentivizing doesn't seem right).
You're not penalizing anybody, you're adding a temporary incentive to get the manufacturer up to speed. Once they're selling enough, they don't need to incentivize people to buy them.
Since the rebate is per manufacturer you are penalizing the first movers. Meaning, Tesla and GM's electric vehicles are $7500 costlier than Ford because they exhausted their rebates early on.
The cap should have been for the entire country so that companies like Ford can't sit back years before rolling out with an EV and gain a second movers advantage now that the tech is mature.