Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

Post by sisama » Wed, Oct 07, 2020, 3:31 PM UTC

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Amazon definitely comes under considering base salary only. I hear they have a cap 165K for base salary (185K in NYC/SF). No matter how senior the position, it seems the person wouldn't qualify for Level IV. What would the consequences of that be? Can they just hire them at a Level 3?

Let's face it - it's pretty trivial for Amazon to go "Okay, now we have a H1B tier that get x% less stock and exactly the minimum requried base salary". It's not like they have a problem reaching that total comp, they just like to incentivize employees differently. I don't see them dumping the H1Bs entirely simply because they don't want to rebalance.

Post by pm90 » Wed, Oct 07, 2020, 3:34 PM UTC

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All that will happen now is the manual UI testing position that would have been hired in the US will now be done back in India as companies scramble to deal with this situation. They'll probably do the work for even less, companies and teams and infrastructure will expand in India to do the work, and taxes and spin-off benefits to the US economy will be lost. Or alternatively (and quite likely) we'll just hire that p…

> Or alternatively (and quite likely) we'll just hire that potential candidate up here in Canada; growing our tech industry further and competing with American workers in the same time zones and language as you, with a just-as or better educated work force, and a for lower cost to the employer and in a culture that on the whole appreciates immigrants more. I'm virtually certain that Canada will not have a single tech…

Post by JAlexoid » Wed, Oct 07, 2020, 3:38 PM UTC

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Credit where credit is due, this is a good move. The H1B program has been abused for a long time. It sounds like these changes should help make it too expensive for the fraudulent abuse to continue.

> The H1B program has been abused for a long time What's the abuse?

Post by gamechangr » Wed, Oct 07, 2020, 3:39 PM UTC

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What makes the immigration process in the US truly horrific is the extraordinary time it takes to approve or reject a greencard petition. In many cases it takes years - or even over a decade or more. That's insane. People bring their spouses here, they have kids who are born and go to school here, and all along the way their immigration status is uncertain. And meanwhile they are tied to whatever job they're in. It's…

For Engineers and Doctors from India, its takes more than 20 years to get Green card now. Its because of the arcane country quota system which assigns the same numerical quota for each country regardless of population, so India and Monaco get the same number of Green cards. This is the remnant of the pre-1965 racist immigration country quota system which allowed only European whites into US.

Post by JAlexoid » Wed, Oct 07, 2020, 3:43 PM UTC

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> The H1B program has been abused for a long time What's the abuse?

The abuse is that the H1B program is supposed to be for truly distinctive skills. But the "body shops" bring people with very low skill.