Social media platforms should be considered publications. A company cannot say they have an open platform and call Themselves immune if they’re going to editorialize and punish views you disagree with. Section 230 needs to destroyed.
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I think it's even more concerning than that. Threatening to shut down private companies -- not for limiting speech, not for refusing to distribute speech -- but for exercising their own right to free speech alongside the free speech of others (in this case the president). There is no right to unchallenged or un-responded-to speech, regardless of how you interpret the right to free speech.
Attaching a disclaimer to the speech of another though is not straightforward. Will they get into the business of fact checking everyone over certain number of followers? Will they do it impartially world-wide? How can they even be impartial world wide given the different contradictory points of view, valid from both sides? Cyprus? What’s the take there?
No, it doesn’t work like that, corporations will only FactCheck people they disagree with.
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#903I want to see an actual statistical analysis of how many of Trump's "threats" on social media/Twitter have resulted in genuine legislative action. I remember a few years back now my alma mater (UC Berkeley) getting extremely upset of Trump threatening to withhold "federal funding" for the perceived anti-conservative action of canceling some trashy public speaker shill whose name now escapes me.
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#904Rising have a good discussion of the ramifications IMO https://youtu.be/pY8xnMXXlqI
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#905Twitter should just ban Trump.. seems straightforward. He breaks all their rules.
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#906It seems like any remotely political post on HN gets flooded and upvoted with provable incorrect comments. Twitter team which is doing "fact checks" is severely biased and factually wrong. Twitter's "Head of Site Integrity" Yoel Roth boasts on his LinkedIn that he is in charge of "developing and enforcing Twitter’s rules". > “He leads the teams responsible for developing and enforcing Twitter’s rules” Here's a few of…
Sorry, do these data points prove that votes cast by mail are not "less likely to be counted, more likely to be compromised & more likely to be contested than those cast in a voting booth"?
Did you read my full comment?
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Sorry, do these data points prove that votes cast by mail are not "less likely to be counted, more likely to be compromised & more likely to be contested than those cast in a voting booth"?
Did you read my full comment?
Yes, and I saw your examples. But do they prove that mail-in votes are:
1. less likely to be counted 2. more likely to be compromised & 3. more likely to be contested than those cast in a voting booth?
Or are they just some examples of mail-in voter fraud? (Some aren’t even that, still just discrepancies being investigated)
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it's clearly impossible for trump to shut down twitter. he doesn't know how his own government works and doesn't care to know, because his goal is entirely self-promotion and personal profit. he's not a hard person to figure out. it's more concerning that people are taking it seriously enough to create so much chatter. it's not even a free speech issue, insofar as twitter is not a government entity. there's literally…
I think it's not as impossible as you make it out to be. He might not understand how to do it, but if he were to leverage the tools at his disposal, he definitely could do it. I initially thought that he could not gut the American administration _too_ much because of institutional inertia and the systems put in place that still had you country functioning pretty well once he took power. But now here we are, him havin…
no, even he's not dumb enough to try, but even so, he'd never get far enough to do any real damage. the courts would quickly strike down such obvious abuses of power. the framers were smart enough to anticipate someone like trump (more like nixon, but trump is a poor man's nixon). he also doesn't have the stamina or self-control to follow through before he'd be right back on twitter preaching to his choir. he's too addicted to the instant validation he gets from it.
the massive federal bureaucracies don't turn on a dime and are still running fine (we have food, power, water, commerce, justice, etc.), despite trump's paranoia around having anyone around him stealing his limelight, including competent cabinet members and heads of other federal agencies. hopefully these next few months are the final season of reality tv government here.
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So he’s biased. Does that mean him fact checking is wrong ? Sure, we should demand accountability on both sides, but it’s hard to be completely neutral.
Did you read my comment in full? I provided 5 different sources (all liberal too) that Twitter's "fact checking" is 100% wrong.
No, you just provided some examples. You didn’t prove that their statement is wrong.