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Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by anticensor »

pitterpatter wrote: post #631
JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #284

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Devtools are baked into standard chrome. I find it odd I'd have to download a special version of Firefox made for developers.

Devtools are also in standard firefox. The developer edition just includes new features that haven't yet made it to the current release. The chrome analog is Chrome Dev ( https://www.google.com/chrome/dev/ ) Firefox: Nightly -> Developer -> Beta -> Stable -> Extended Support Release Chrome: Canary -> Dev -> Beta -> Stable

Firefox is actually Nightly->Beta->Stable->ESR, where Developer Edition is a differently configured build of Beta.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by labster »

sfink wrote: post #900
labster wrote: post #505

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I'm currently over 1000 tabs in Firefox. Most aren't loaded in memory. I know this is terrible, one of these days I need to KonMari my tabs and start using bookmarks again. Thankfully I'm not a hoarder of non-digital goods. Either way, I only get bad performance from a few tabs at a time, usually a Fandom wikia or the pinned Gmail tabs. The first can be solved with a few seconds on about:performance, and the second w…

I sometimes creep above the 1000 mark as well. At 250 right now. I recommend the tabstats extension; it'll especially help when you discover that you've opened the same url in 12 tabs, which is easy to do when the tab count gets that high. I also recommend periodically declaring tab bankruptcy. It feels so light and clean! For a little while, at least.

> I recommend the tabstats extension

You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. I'm under 1000 now! (ok... 999) Deduplication of tabs is pretty useful for the Jira issues (I usually follow links from Slack). If only Jira pages would load faster.

Tab bankruptcy scares me. It's hard to know how much of it is an action I still need to take. Some of it is research I don't want have to find again, but I need to take the time to bookmark.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-stats/

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by andrewaylett »

Myrmornis wrote: post #779
andrewaylett wrote: post #612

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It does depend on exactly why you want profiles -- for my use cases, Multi-Account Containers (and Temporary Containers) do a much better job of helping me achieve what I want to do than either browser's implementation of profiles.

I maintain that it is a widely-propagated misconception that Firefox containers can be used to replace Chrome profiles. Here are my notes from when I investigated: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15688651 I went deeply into trying to use containers as a profile replacement, replacing Chrome with the new Firefox beta for one month, and I can report that it is not the right direction to go in: - New tabs do not in…

I suppose a corollary of that is that Profiles are a poor substitute for Containers. And Containers largely match what I actually want to do, which is to have a shared history while being able to split out certain login (or cache) contexts, without needing a separate window.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by brokenmachine »

ethbro wrote: post #282
bhtru wrote: post #239

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With this course of action it may be compelling enough to give consumer users a reason to ditch Chrome.

No significant number of users have ever ditched anything useful over invisible tracking.

We're talking about very visible ads, not invisible tracking.

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Post by mrguyorama »

chris_wot wrote: post #867
mrguyorama wrote: post #804

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I've used this exact feature on firefox for years

How do you get it to tear off and show the whole window while you are moving it? I would love that, then I'd literally switch in no time flat.

Drag the tab away from the title bar and to a different screen, it should just birth a new window and live in that. You can also drag tabs from one window to another, or drag a window with only one tab to merge it with another window

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by nialv7 »

ljm wrote: post #98
user17843 wrote: post #53

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Indeed, almost the entire ad-blocking market is controlled by the company behind Adblock Plus (eyeo GmbH), who has contracts with Google. It appears they also own AdBlock, and uBlock (not confused with uBO), so during the last years they basically tried to capture the entire market. The fact that Eyeo has >150 employees tells us something about the amount of money to be made from ad blocking. Although they have only…

This is why it’s so unfortunate and frustrating that people are depending so much on Chromium/Blink. Electron, various browsers that are just skins over the embedded framework... We were still dealing with legacy IE6 (and IE 7/8 by that point also) in 2013! Almost a decade since we got Firefox and the first version of Chrome. The web has empirically suffered through homogeneity and the lack of strong competitors in t…

> We still have WebKit and Firefox and (sooner or later), more of Servo at least.

Do remember though, Mozilla's income is heavily dependent on Google. If we want a browser engine that can remain completely free, we really need a engine that is community driven. Although that might not longer be possible given the complexity of the web nowadays.

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Post by m-p-3 »

Hnrobert42 wrote: post #802
Myrmornis wrote: post #780

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No. This is a misconception that is being spread around. I don't know what FF containers are useful for, but they certainly do not function to replace Chrome's profiles: Here are my notes from when I investigated: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15688651 I went deeply into trying to use containers as a profile replacement, replacing Chrome with the new Firefox beta for one month, and I can report that it is not…

I don’t know about profiles, so I can’t speak to that. All I can do is say that I use containers to open multiple tabs of the same site with different users. For example, I have multiple AWS accounts. To login to two different ones at the same time, I use different containers. Way better than opening one is FF, one in Chrome, etc. When I open a link from a container in a new tab it opens in the same container.

Containers are great to "containerize" cookies but that's about it.

If you have multiple "personas", like a personal account with bookmarks and a work account with another set of bookmarks and settings, you'll want a separate profile.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by tombh »

JoshuaRLi wrote: post #850
tombh wrote: post #592

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What are your tweaks? 2Gb seems to totally reasonable for my habits, but I can't keep to it, there are just always leaks. Eg; Slack or Gmail just need reloading every few hours to reclaim RAM.

https://github.com/joshuarli/dotfiles/blob/master/misc/firef... Also have a bunch of umatrix rules, but not inclined on sharing those. Regarding gmail, keep a pinned tab open on about:memory and periodically click on GC and minimize memory, that might be a better solution than reloading.

Nice, thanks!
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